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Hypocrisy and the war in Gaza : Comments

By Bren Carlill, published 9/1/2009

For eight years Israeli cities were brutalised by Hamas rockets, but the media took notice only when Israel responded.

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Desmond Tutu, April 2002 had this to say:

"People are scared in this country (the US),
to say wrong is wrong because the Jewish lobby
is powerful - very powerful.
Well, so what?
For goodness sake, this is God's world!
We live in a moral universe.

The apartheid government was very powerful,
but today it no longer exists.
Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Pinochet, Milosevic, and Idi Amin
were all powerful, but in the end they bit the dust.
Injustice and oppression will never prevail.

Those who are powerful have to remember the litmus test
that God gives to the powerful;
What is your treatment of the poor, the hungry,
the voiceless?
And on the basis of that, God passes judgement.
We should put out a clarion call to the government
of the people of Israel, to the Palestinian people
and say:

Peace is possible, peace based on justice is possible.
We will do all we can to assist you to achieve this
peace, because it is God's dream, and you will be able
to live amicably together as sisters and brothers."
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 11 January 2009 5:53:02 PM
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People also paid little notice to the ongoing sanctions against Gaza or the kidnapping of Hamas politicians until the last week or so.
Now all they talk about is the Hamas rockets and the Israeli response, not the lead up to them.

The public are mere reactionaries, responding to the immediate situations they are told abour or allowed to see.

Just like all the noise made about Tibet during the Olympic torch relay or the occasional news from Zimbabwe, this will also fade away as soon as "the next big thing" is announced.
Posted by wobbles, Sunday, 11 January 2009 8:32:17 PM
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how dare anyone compare the murder of SIX MILLION jews to israel's actions, whether you support israel or not? in aushwitz at the height of the holocaust 12 000 jews were being gassed every day. if israel wanted to commit genocide then the death toll would be higher then 800.
Posted by Liberal, Sunday, 11 January 2009 11:42:27 PM
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Totally right Liberal. if Israel wanted to, it could completely flatten Gaza, and, for that matter, Southern Lebanon, Syria and Iran.
It has not done so.
Hamas bears all the responsibility in this conflict because it wilfully refuses to entertain peace with Israel. Indeed its very charter specifically states that it wants the complete destruction of Israel.
Hamas is also completely amoral, in siting their rockets and military among the Gazan population and using hospitals, mosques, universities and private homes as arms caches.
We are not talking about a children's game here, that leftist bleeding-heart apologists for the Islamo-fascists can pontificate upon, all in the comfort and security of their homes. I'm damn sure that if anyone was sending rockets into my neighbourhood every day, I'd do anything I needed to do to stop it. Hamas is using its captive population to score political points, as it does not care about dead children. Hamas can't even deal properly in a democratic manner with their political opponents.
Hamas is deliberately doing all this so it can use the dead civilians as pawns in their religious/political inspired cause. They do not give a damn about the people of Gaza.
Why can't otherwise intelligent people see this?
If the people of Gaza have elected Hamas, knowing what Hamas intended to do, then they can't complain about the consequences.
Posted by Froggie, Monday, 12 January 2009 12:55:58 AM
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I really do not think it is actually representative of any
description Foggy by referring to the Leftist bed wetters as
anything other than the correct clinical expression. – They are chronically deluded psychopaths, and it is rather obvious , and
almost ridicules where some like to invoke some Media Idiocy, as
accurate reporting,; it rather gives a reasonable impression of how
life was when Gobles was the Information Minister of the Anti Semite Socialism party, the only difference in Modern times is the media is in Automaton mode and propagate the disinformation by default.

They do not require a disinfomation minister anymore.
Posted by All-, Monday, 12 January 2009 2:21:55 AM
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Have a look at this, you brave defenders of war on women and children:

"Five women – Palestinian, American, Muslim, Christian, and Jewish – tell stories of humiliation and harassment by Israeli border guards and airport security officials.
Watch the Video"

http://ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/childabuse.html

"If Americans Knew was astonished to learn that Israeli officials have also been strip-searching girls as young as seven and below.

According to interviews with women in the United States, Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, Israeli border officials periodically force Christian and Muslim females of all ages to remove their clothing and submit to searches. In some cases the children are then “felt” by Israeli officials.

Sometimes mothers and children are strip-searched together, at other times little girls are taken from their parents and strip-searched alone. Women are required to remove sanitary napkins, sometimes with small daughters at their side. Sometimes women are strip searched in the presence of their young sons.

All report deep feelings of humiliation. Many describe weeping at the degradation they felt.

“I remember crying and pleading with my mother,” Gaza journalist Laila El-Haddad recalls of an experience when she was 12-years-old, hoping that her mother could convince the Israeli official to allow her to keep her undershirt on. But parents are unable to shield their children, El-Haddad and others report.

“They had machine guns,” El-Haddad explains. “We just had to submit.”

What goes on at the Israeli-Palestiniqn border crossings border crossings is an abuse of power. This kind of perverted, power-mad behaviour destroys lives and breeds suicide bombers. Is this the kind og behaviour you can defend?

This disgusting cruelty has been reported in the past by B'Tselem. It is officially or unofficially sanctioned behaviour, or it would have ended long, long ago.

Some posters here will try to prevaricate or simply lie their way out of it. My advice to them is wake up and smell the corpses.
Posted by Sir Vivor, Monday, 12 January 2009 6:11:20 AM
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