TRTL, Even apostasy being a danger for a Muslim is still the Christians fault, come on man… If you dislike Christians, no problem, just say so, but don’t beat up on them cuz leaving Islam can be so dangerous… That is a problem if Islam not Christianity.

I am going to re post Kayser Trads hate speech from Nidal Islam in the late 90s… I was saddened that no supporters of Nursul’s article acknowledged this this horrible truth, her support of him…

This must be faced. This is who Nursul is supporting.

“ The criminal dregs of white society colonised this country, and now, they only take the select choice of other societies, and the descendants of these criminal dregs tell us that they are better than us. And because we are not elitists, we tolerate them. Yet they want us to assimilate “

http://worldwar111.blogspot.com/2006/02/racisim-islamic-response.html

This is real racism, hard core racism.. At the level of KKK intensity. This is what the author, Nursul, as we, should be fighting.

As everyone is saying to Nursul, and I say to the apologists too.. Stop saying how offended you are and do something about the constant hate and murder. The Christians did, they separated law and religion. It worked. No more bonfires with witches on instead scientific progress for medicine and technology and social aims and Christians still comfortably have their beliefs. I think this will help Islam too. And yes, TLTR you’re correct, proper support and protection for Islamic apostates.

Where the hell are our feminists in all this too?

gee, the gang's all here. and what a charming gang they are. pericles nailed it in one.

Bush Basher,

Calling people names, insinuating they are racist or somehow horrible as human beings because they oppose Islam and actually say so, it just doesn't work anymore.

The power of the those words, once so important and meaningful, is so worn out with the misuse just as you did then. It'll be a shame for future minorities who are ever actually abused won't it.

Sorry to be angry but this kind of snide *oh u nazi racist* when some dislikes Islam is just so pathetic and has done so much damage it has held up progress by shoving people so firmly into their corners.

dear meredith,

1) i didn't call anyone names. but now i will.

2) i am not excusing anyone. if keysar wrote a nasty hate speech, and it sure wouldn't surprise me, then i'll join you in damning him. will you join me in damning the hate speech of pat robertson and jerry falwell?

3) what i regard as "horrible as human beings" is the sleazy guilt by association, the ludicrous identification of muslims as a homogenous group. that's how pericles nailed it. just read his highlighted paragraph again.

4) i regard such sleaze as particularly horrible when it is done with arrogant god-blessed sanctimony. particular OLO "christians" have turned this into an art form – to the extent that slinging feces against a wall can constitute art.

Bush Basher says: "gee, the gang's all here. and what a charming gang they are. pericles nailed it in one."

meredith responds: "Calling people names, insinuating they are racist or somehow horrible as human beings because they oppose Islam and actually say so, it just doesn't work anymore."

Hey, meredith, a tad off target aren't you?

Which part of Bushy's post (which I've quoted in full) is 'name-calling'?
Which part insinuates people are 'racist'?
Which part insinuates people are 'horrible as human beings'?

It's an age-old debating trick to deflect attention away from a very thin argument to suggest the other side has been hitting below the belt. Maybe that's not your intention. Maybe you just got Bush Basher mixed up with Gibo, Polycarp, Leigh or runner?

Well said john frum. You wrote exactly what I had in mind when I read this article. The author plays the same old record on 'islamophobia' that we've heard too many times. As other reactions state very rightly: this word is only being used as a means to stifle any criticism of Islam. And we always hear the same thing: There is no single Islam, the religion has many faces, so you can't expect Muslims to protest in masses against the atrocities in Mumbai, to name just one thing. However, it is no problem to get masses on the streets to demonstrate against the hijab ban in France, to demand the death of Salman Rushdie or the Danish cartoonists, or to burn American or Israeli flags. But when it comes down to condemnation of the genocide in Darfur, where one group of Muslims kills another group of Muslims, when it comes down to condemnation of the pathetically labelled 'insurgents' in Iraq (how about 'thugs'?) who slaughter their fellow-Muslims by the thousands, when it comes down to the terrorists in Mumbai, who gunned down a Muslim family (only one of the kids, 5 years old, survived) that happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time (train station), it is impossible to get the masses on the streets to finally say: Enough is enough, we don't want any more slaughter in the name of our religion. Instead of this silence, utter silence.