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Relocating Israel in Australia: crazy or not? : Comments
By Brian Holden, published 20/11/2008The idea of relocating Israel to the Kimberley is not so crazy if the cost of the relocation is less than the cost of Israel staying where it is.
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Posted by colinsett, Sunday, 23 November 2008 12:13:06 PM
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Polycarp you have now made Nazi analogies twice on this thread. I therefore invoke Godwin's Law and declare the argument closed (once might be excusable, twice is obviously just flamebait). Additionally, accusing me of bias and bigotry is simply cheap ad hominen.
Looks like I was wrong about Brian Holden. He's popped into the thread to assure us that he was deadly serious. "In time the Kimberly will belong to the world." And if so, likewise for Israel. It seems to me that an equitable solution in Israel would be more sensible (and easier) than shipping Jews elsewhere. But you can't stop the dreamers from dreaming... A large file (over 300 pages online) on the agitation for Jewish settlement in the Kimberley, 1944-1950, may be found here: http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ItemDetail.asp?M=0&B=1963809 This was a project of the Freeland League for Jewish Territorial Colonization, headed by Dr Isaac Steinberg. Interesting to note that a non-Zionist organisation was still advocating settlement in Australia even after the establishment of Israel. Posted by Johnj, Sunday, 23 November 2008 5:02:48 PM
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If you think about it Australia and Israel have a lot in common.
We both have bugger all fresh water. We both have governments dead set on increasing, population despite popular opinion not wanting it. We both have large immigration intake, again despite popular opinion. We both have large Lebanese communities. I don't understand the Kimberlies as prefered destination. Surely somehwere close to Lake Eyre would be more like home? Posted by T.Sett, Monday, 24 November 2008 5:39:59 AM
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Dear JohnJ....
you invited my response as you received. You made a wild claim that was absurd and ludicrous...that in effect mean't "calls for genocide don't matter". Well...I showed you absolutely clear documentary evidence that my claim was utterly substantiated... I showed you that it is such a concern to American Jews that they are lobbying to have the genocidal hadiths not only removed from online sites, but also that they be REPUDIATED by those claiming those holy books as their own. Those who hold such 'holy' books in high esteem did not repudiate these calls for genocide, they simply whined about censorship. In your response you DID NOT address that call for genocide.. you simply avoided it and attacked me... you sidestepped and ran for cover "Godwins law" ...... absolute unadulterated rubbish or the most sordid kind. In your first response you blamed "Jihad Watch" for a fake source. I showed you the original source. Both say the same thing. ..and you call this an ad-hominem? You don't have a polemical leg to stand on so you grab your toys and run home crying. (yes..this IS an ad-hominem against a childish infantile attitude.) Perhaps you can grow up a bit between now and your next post and actually make a comment on the genocidal call in Islamic holy writ. But given that it is claimed by Hamas in their Charter.. puh-leasseeeee don't give me the drivel that most wanna be IslamoFascist apologists try with the uninitiated "Oh.. your taking it out of context". Nope.. how about trying to ADDRESS the facts as they stand? BRIAN HOLDEN. Do you live in a surreal lala land? "One World Government'? ur kidding right? couple that with your sympathy for Islam... r we to assume you mean a theocracy? and if you don't, are you so unaware of world events and Islams part in them that you even think they will accept a non Islamic government for this world? Posted by Polycarp, Monday, 24 November 2008 6:37:10 AM
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Porkycrap: << You made a wild claim that was absurd and ludicrous... >>
You'd never do that, would you Porky? Posted by CJ Morgan, Monday, 24 November 2008 6:44:07 AM
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CJ
I'm simply wondering how Johnj can be expected to "grab his toys and run home" when he "doesn't have a leg to stand on." As for the topic, Relocating Israel in Australia? Crazy and ill-thought. The Zionists got their promised land - they can tend it. Posted by Fractelle, Monday, 24 November 2008 9:51:06 AM
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Brian, what a load of cods-wallop.
“I have been waiting for a blogger to come in with the bigger picture, but none have.”
Again, what nonsense.
Please, you, take a step back and view the planet objectively - the whole planet, which stretches far outside the frame of your obviously limited vision.
See what are its strengths and weaknesses in coping with the human plague. A plague which has grown like cancer. Homo sapiens would have totaled less than 1 million at 100,000 years ago. Then came the good times of agriculture 10,000 years past and we grew.
By year 1of the Common Era perhaps we totaled 150 million, 1350/300 million, 1700/600 million, 1800/900 million, 1900/1,600 million, 1950/2.4 billion, 1985/5 billion, 2008/6.7 billion. For "the big brained mammal", how alike we are to yeast in bakers dough - multiplying rapidly until it kills itself off.
Don’t take it too personally Brian, you are not the only one totally clueless as to the Kimberleys and to the big picture - world population continues to grow with tiddly-squat being done about it by people running world affairs.
World population, a great proportion undernourished, lives off the capital of limited environmental resources, and continues to increase by 80 million a year.
You are hardly looking at the big picture while you neglect this. Do you really expect that Israel transported can happily be embedded in the Kimberleys, all 7.5 million of them and on track to double their own numbers in a little over a generation?