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Sweet Jesus, not another 'ragger' : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 20/6/2008

So Camden council's decision against building a Muslim school has nothing to do with racial or sectarian bigotry?

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Passy,
What race is Islam, again?

Hitler,
You'll be happy to know your book continues to be a best-seller in Muslim countries. Makes you feel all warm and glowing, doesn't it...your work still goes on.

Mercurius: when Muslims move into a suburb they don't do it in dribs and drabs. They, if not "take over", swamp other groups. Can you name a Catholic suburb of Sydney? No? There are quite a few Muslim ones, Punchbowl and Lakemba, for starters. Then, it is they who erect the invisible walls of the ghetto, and refuse to integrate. Worse, they try to tell us how we should live. No thanks.
Posted by viking13, Saturday, 21 June 2008 5:55:03 PM
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"Hitler" has been suspended indefinitely. I'd appreciate a "heads-up" if anyone else like this turns up on this or any other thread.
Posted by GrahamY, Saturday, 21 June 2008 6:52:31 PM
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I don't want to enter into an inane "let's defame each other" game with you Bozo_Dagwood, however I would note that referring to me as StupidPencil in your post of Saturday, 21 June 2008 4:42:26 PM is quite offensive.

Sadly this seems to be the way of those who want to take on the role of Islamic or Muslim defenders. Smear people by saying that they are racist - when Islam is a belief system not an ethnicity - and disparaging their opponents in screeching tones.

I find it interesting to note that you are keen to disparage "white Christians" as a whole and find them culpable for the Holocaust and what happened to Bosnian Muslims in the mid-1990s. Somehow I even get tossed into this mix as the "white Christians" are referred to as "your lot".

The trouble is Bozo is that I am NOT a Christian - I just happen to find Islam the most asinine of the monotheistic faiths and some people who defend it or speak up for it some of the most dreadful hypocrits.

I was also intrigued as to how "white Christian extremism" was playing a part in the events in the former Yugoslavia in the mid-1990s? Which made me wonder whether you might also consider the ongoing genocide in Darfur as "Arab Muslim extremism"?
Posted by Savage Pencil, Saturday, 21 June 2008 10:25:54 PM
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Bozo-Dagwoods commment "White Christian extremists" is probably actionable as it is definitely racist hate speech.

This mentions race and religion. Though 'white' includes many ethnicities, for the purposes of the Hate Speech legislation I think it comes close enough to being culpable.

BOZO... regarding "why shouldn't Jews (and all others) have their own prayer room?"

It's really very simple..

1/ Why does ANY faith need 'separate and exclusive' prayer rooms?
could it be an inherrent 'disdain' for non them? which of course is possibly racist, and definitely discriminatory.

2/ Practicality: If you were the boss of RMIT I can envisage pretty much every 2nd room being an 'exclusive'prayer room for evey whacko religion in the country and theirs plenty.

In my view, every religion should accomodate itself to the fact that they are at an educational place not spiritual.

Mercurious is a classic :) I mean... if he was on a plane which was hijacked by anti Jewish fanatics, his name would be an immediate giveaway and possibly a death sentense.
I can imagine his plaintive cries "But..but..I am an atheist(?) a secular person..er..I believe in a 2 state solution.. I believe in the right of return for Palo's" etc..

They would look at him and just say "JEW" and put him at the top of the list for 'special treatment' in the event of police intervention.

It's always easier to speak about sentimental fairness and justice and rights etc when there is no gun pointed at your head because of your religion or race.

The real world in our patch might not be like that 'today' but based on some videos circulating on youtube, one wonders about 'tomorrow'.

The prudent citizen thinks ahead.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 22 June 2008 9:54:51 AM
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Australia is a constitutionally a Secular Country that means no religion is acknowledge as better than another.
Recently a Uni maths professor did the numbers and showed clearly that at current birth rates differences in the UK and given sociological proven facts. It would take SEVERAL hundred years to be the dominant religion in the UK. This is FACT.
In truth I am from an Anglo Saxon family but I’m as different to you as chalk is to cheese so what.
As for me being “un Australian” how would you know? Do you know my military record, my community work, education, my family, my eating habits even my religious persuasion which is not Muslim.
There is no such a thing as the average Aussie, American etc except in the statistics. If the census had asked “which do you think more about religion or sport (recreation)” and/or “Are you a practising Christian (regular Church attendance) or a nominal? We all know what the result would have shown.
How many of you can quote the Ten Commandments in order, John 3: 16, the 23rd psalm? All foundations of Christianity?
The same applies to Muslim numbers. Dads counts his 5 children but are they? As time goes on intermarriages, lapses maybe 2 will still be active 20 year on. This assimilation has been fact for thousands of years read history, e.g. the reason for the Mayflower invasion?
If there are so many Real Christians why then are Church Attendances overall dropping?
It has been shown that the richer a family/society is the less the overall birth rate is. Otherwise why is our govt paying women to have more babies?
Finally Global warming and 4 billion foreigners on our doorstep in shrinking space and ability to feed themselves, being intolerant is a poor long-term survival strategy. Sooner or later we are going to have to hope they’re more tolerant to difference than we are. America coming to our rescue? They’ll be too busy with their own problems. Perhap's you're praying for Armageddon.
Posted by examinator, Sunday, 22 June 2008 10:22:11 AM
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Irfan,

I'm tired of your oh so flippant comments about women wearing Muslim headscarves.

A person wearing a headscarf is sending a signal indicating their difference and superiority to those not so attired.
Posted by Seneca, Sunday, 22 June 2008 11:02:16 AM
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