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Sweet Jesus, not another 'ragger' : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 20/6/2008

So Camden council's decision against building a Muslim school has nothing to do with racial or sectarian bigotry?

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I think that "examinator" might like to take a look at some FACTS too! According to the French embassy in London an estimated 3.7 to 5.5 million French residents are Muslims – or between 5 and 9% of the population. Not 4%. It is an estimate because religious affiliation is not recorded as such in France. (An Act of 1872 prohibits the recording of religious affiliation.)

According to Wikipedia Islam is the second largest religion in England and Wales with a total of 1,546,626 adherents or 3.0% of the total population. This figure comes from the 2001 census. As birth rates amongst Muslim communities are higher than in non-Muslim communities, the percentage of Muslims amongst England's total population has no doubt increased considerably.

In London, Muslims make up 8.5% of the urban population (2001 census) and a recent survey has indicated that the most popular name for baby boys born in the United Kingdom in 2008 will be Mohammed.

As for the whole tack taken by Irfan Yusuf in this article perhaps a piece from Farooq Sulehria that appeared in Pakistan's The News on June 17th should be read as an antidote. As the author notes: "Every single country across the Muslim world has been pointed out by the Amnesty International either for executions and torture or discrimination against women and ethnic and religious minorities. Punishments never handed down even during the Stone Age, have been awarded in 21st century Muslim world".

Farooq's article is entitled "Blaming Others", which is what Irfan and Keysar Trad are true champions at. The article can be found at http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=11885
Posted by Savage Pencil, Friday, 20 June 2008 1:10:03 PM
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Savage, the URL you posted doesn't work. Then again, you'll probably claim it is the fault of the Muslims. They're all in it together, aren't they. All conspiring, just like the Jews did until 60 years ago.
Posted by BOZO_DAGWOOD, Friday, 20 June 2008 2:27:08 PM
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Jeeezzz, exterminator, give it a rest. All we're trying to do is defend our communities against people who are different from us. And you know what that means don't you...yes - that means they aren't the SAME as us!

Different clothes, different foods, different views on women and worst of all, some of them even look just like the people we see on A Current Affair threatening to blow up things.

Stop being unAustrayan and start realising that the more we let DIFFERENT people in, the more conflict and hatred this will stir up among people who are just like us.

Or something like that.
Posted by Ford Prefect, Friday, 20 June 2008 2:54:18 PM
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Irfy...perhaps.. just remotely perhaps.. the Camden reaction has to do with the religion..not the race..

VISIT TO RMIT.... Today I made a visit to RMIT based on reports of a particular group of protesters who want a Mosque for their exclusive use.
Apparently this issue has some history where there were some rooms allocated previously for Muslim prayer, but as the new multi faith 'Spiritual Centre'( as the RMIT management saw it) or the 'Mosque' as the Muslims saw it drew near to completion, it was pointed out that this facility would need to be 'multi faith' and not for Exclusive Muslim Brethen.

The Muslims reacted very negatively to this, and are holding friday prayers in the main road between buildings at RMIT in protest.
They are assisted by the leftoid/regard mob who are petitioning for them to 'practice their religion'.

I showed the following large wording to a friendly Muslim Phd student from Libya:

Heading "Social and political research"

"Muslims do not believe Christ is the Son of God, may God curse them and destroy them"
"HATE SPEECH"?

As he read it, he agreed YES this is 'hate speech'.... I then turned the sign around displaying the very same wording but from the Quran, chapter 9:30 where Jews and Christians are condemned and cursed.

He fumbled for words, then tried to re-assure me "This is just for the Jews"... But Christians are specifically mentioned.
I said "Your presense here and the LOUD public declaration of "mohammad is the messenger of Allah" is an insult to non Muslims.

He understood this but replied "But this is what we believe.. from God"

He also affirmed that with Islam, if you leave, you should be KILLED.

So..as I said. maybe it is the nature of the religion which Camden residents are against?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Friday, 20 June 2008 3:02:00 PM
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"Today I made a visit to RMIT based on reports of a particular group of protesters who want a Mosque for their exclusive use ..."

Boaz's church regularly allows Jews and Hindus to worship there. In fact, I saw a statue of the Hindu God Shiva with candles and burning incense at the altar. Isn't that right, Boaz? Your church is a firm believer in multi-faith services and would never insist on exclusivity to its premises.

Practise what you preach, Boaz.
Posted by BOZO_DAGWOOD, Friday, 20 June 2008 3:11:54 PM
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I live in Europe - an expat Aussie and I can tell you one thing for sure: it is not the percentage of muslims it is the fact that they are here and they have a very disturbing effect on the community whether you like it or not and all I can say to all Australians is "STOP THEM NOW" or suffer their influence and its not nice.
Girls are murdered because they have dishonored the family, boys are forced to participate in religious bigotry or they are regarded as anti islam - it goes on and on . The islam - muslim 'cult' is from the dark ages and has no place in our modern society just like scientology has no place either or for that matter any of these outdated brainwashing movements.
Before you daydreaming ideologists that live in the soft protected belly of Australian society start to be very "liberal" (in the American use of liberal ie secular progressive leftists) you should come to parts of Europe that are infested with these madmen.
Posted by Kasperle, Friday, 20 June 2008 4:24:58 PM
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