It only takes a quick look at the useless female fools that affirmative action has thrown to the top echelon of many public service positions & academia to see the error of this rant.

Try the lemon next time love. They are not quite so Sour.

ALERT: "Women who speak out for equal rights - the same rights, not special rights - are often described as being 'man-haters', or worse."

I think the problem is much much deeper than this, and we have real problems when we do it to ourselves.

Look at this article by Melinda Tankard Reist "Give this ad the boot" on ABC Unleashed.

It is a focus on underlying issues that control and can numb us and;

"Is it any wonder that we see so much angst amongst those on the cusp of adulthood, unable to focus on the real meaning of life?" And,

"There is something wrong with the moral compass of a society which not only ignores, but promotes the degradation of women - and children, as Julie Gale's earlier viewpoint stated."

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2183651.htm#comments

A big reason to pounce!

http://www.miacat.com/
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Women will have a fair go only in a fair society.Society is unfair not only because of men.Women are equally responsible for the problems in the society.Now both the sexes being employed in all fields women also indulge in all sorts of corrupt and dishonest activities.Dishonest women cannot expect justice from their male counterparts.What I mean here is that unfairness to women is part of the general erosion of social values for which women are equally responsible.Loss of esteem for women in general is perpetuated by the obscene portrayal of women in cinema. Decent women should revolt against those women who come almost naked in movies for earning easy money. After seeing women in movies in such erotic roles youth cannot develop regard for women in general.
V.K.Muthu

This debate generally revolves around women on one side versus men on the other. What conclusion can we draw from that? That much of the debate is simply a reflection of self-interest.

If we were more perspicacious and even-handed we would argue the rights and wrong committed and inflicted upon both men and women.

Nevertheless, I do have empathy for many feminist stances. It actually surprises me that much more is not made of the fact that we men (whether our names be George Bush, Saddam Hussein, Rober Mugabe, John Howard.... the list is very long indeed) are the cause of virtually all those murderous wars - let along the millions of homicides committed by testosterone-charged males on their partners and ex-lovers.

A person can't be blamed for his chemistry, any more than a stag can be blamed for head butting another stag. And, to be sure, women have much to answer for as well. Hard core and subtle examples abound where men suffer prejudice and misunderstanding.

One common news announcement that annoys the hell out of me is the oft-quoted death toll ".... including women and children" - as if the only innocent people who get killed are women and children. I mean, why are not innocent bystanding men who are killed not equally treated as innocent victims?

But rather than become obsessed and self righteous about such examples I prefer to sit in the middle. On balance women are discriminated against much more than we men are. In history and at present.

I would contest that this makes men happier though. Our body chemistry not only causes we men to die younger, it also causes us to do many things such as self-harm, because we simply don't have the support building social skills that are innate to women.

Yes, women suffer ongoing discrimination, but there is no way they would want to live in our skins. Nor am I sure I would want to be a women - fixated, as so many are, on the latest catalogue specials at Myer. Yuck!

There are two sides to every story.

Girls
I have always been a true believer that you are entitled to equal rights, pay and conditions as long as the job you are in has no boundaries between what a man can do and a woman can do.

Lawyers, doctors, solicitors, taxi drivers etc - no worries here.

Manual labour with weight restrictions, packing goods on shelves, lifting cartons of anything - now you have a problem because the law states that women are allowed to lift X and men are allowed to lift Y. Sorry can't have it both ways.

The reality is that we are not equal at everything and that is all there is to it.

If you feminists wish to whip up a storm then knock yourself out but the reality is that there has always been and will always be differences between us and thank god for that I say.

In any case there will always be blokes who want to be women and women who want to be blokes.

I on the other hand will continue to offer protection for my wife and family and I will also continue to open doors for women and be the last to enter/exit the lift if a lady happens to be present.

I don't see this as being better, just respectful.

international womens day...and I will not be joining the celebration...Im sure majority of women and a significant proportion of men supporters wont miss those of us who are not...

and why not celebrate...women have achieved a lot for their lot...statistics are hard to come by but total wealth possession women as a group now exceeds mens...corporate media that works in womens interest...court that does...government that does...and on

there were some real inequities...but since the 'advantaged' or 'first class citizen' status women now enjoy over 'second class' men and children makes a mockery of any past disadvantage...with some real cruelty to boot...

whats wrong is how it was achieved...this article is prime example...each and every statistic quoted is outrageous and now mostly rejected by peer review...does not stop women like in this article abusing it to further benefit women...a lawyer at that who is supposed to be 'officer-of-court' and duty to take 'bona fide position'...nor from 'mass-supporters' misusing key words like 'balanced' to support it...or pre-emptive strike 'slighted man brigade' to prevent criticism by shaming or refusing to acknowledge the deceit...

imagine womenss response to the same article reversed...ie by a man for mens benefit using fudged statistics...bros you will see examples of reasoning logical minds at its best to shoot it down...

bottom line...I think most men have 'woken up'...which is good...and if some one said lets push feminism to its natural end...let women have their own world...except we men wont be a part and we have our own protected one...I got a feeling many men and their children are going to be lining up...

so I suggest we need to start from base eg...'housewife' role should cease...all independent workers...all own their own house...if want children then share the care equally...with current 75% break up of families with father ending up on the street, this way already a good start...ie never live together

Sam