Turnrightthenleft,
It is well known that a feminist will malign males, and then say that they like males. This enables the feminist to malign males again.

It is interesting that so few feminist have objected to the banner, when they are so concerned about "women and their children". Maybe they don't think of boys as being children. Maybe they are like Audrey Apple, and think that boys are slime and snails.

Audrey is a big girl, and she can say if she is a fringe feminist, or just a normal feminist. You don't have to answer for her, like some feminist patronising male.

HRS: "It is well known that a feminist will malign males, and then say that they like males. This enables the feminist to malign males again."

So if a feminist talks positively about men she is lying. If she does not talk positively about men she hates them.

You put me in mind of that Churchill quote, HRS: "A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject."

I genuinely feel sorry for you - you seem very troubled - but you cannot conduct a polite, intelligent conversation.

James, you raise some good points. So tell me, what do you think women can do to help? Do you want us to butt out or butt in? Why don't we talk about positive things women can do, rather than all the things you dislike about us as a gender?

Vanilla,
Feminists may not like to answer too many questions, but would you like to see the banner taken off the blogsite or not?

Yes or No.

If you do believe that boys are made of slime and snails, then here is a medical encylopedia to check.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/encyclopedia.html

Personally I would like to see feminists get something right for once.

Actually HRS, I think it's more that Audrey appears to have the intelligence to realise that only the incredibly stupid would take such a comment seriously.

Tell me HRS - what percentage of people, ar going to believe that men, yes, men, are indeed made out of 'snips and snails?'

Gee, here I thought that most internet users would be well aware than men are in fact, made of flesh.

Apparently not.

Funnily enough, the content under this banner isn't man-hating at all.

So what we have, in effect, is a non-man-hating series of blog articles, grouped under a heading that no sane person could be dumb enough to believe.

I vote, no, don't take it down, because the moment we start kowtowing and getting overly sensitive and precious we lose one hell of a lot more.

If people are too dumb to understand satire, then we wind up cutting it back for fear of offense. We lose the right for any kind of style or humour that isn't approved by the PC brigade.

Learn to hack it HRS. There is always going to be comments out there that can be interpreted as insulting, though I'm amazed you can extrapolate this to being one.
Unless you learn to shrug it off, you're going to always be sulking - because that's precisely what this looks like.

Lets recap, for the sensible people reading this:

a) Audrey has made comments saying she doesn't hate men, and loves her brothers, close friends etc.

b) She's also made a banner heading - 'boys are made of snips and snails'

Right. Now, HRS is telling us that clearly, evil feminists who say things like boys are made of snips and snails must hate men, and when they say they don't, they really do.

(Vanilla's already pointed out the stupidity of this, so I'll let that slide).

I pity the fool that has hardwired themselves to only believe b) while refusing to believe a) given the childishness of this attitude.

HRS, perhaps the reason you find so little textual evidence for feminists writing positively about men is because you refuse to accept anything less than blanket praise for the entire gender. I don't offer blanket praise for the entirety of any group, because to do so would be to generalise. I don't even offer blanket praise to women believe it or not - I tend to think it best to apply praise and criticism to the people I find directly deserving of it. Just as you might not find a post on my blog talking about how much I love ALL men without any kind of reference to the many ways in which they are different, so you will never find a post indicating I HATE all men because they are all the same.

The self declared feminists in this thread have come out more than once to (it seems superfluously) defend their affection for men in general, yet you refuse to believe them. I think the real question here is not whether we like men or not: do you like women?

And I hate to disappoint you, but I feel no need to defend my feminism to you, fringe or otherwise. Believe whatever you want - you've proven yourself to be so single minded nothing I say can make a difference, and frankly your good opinion is of little interest to me.

Also, the banner stays. Deal.

HRS,

I just saw what Audrey wrote on the other thread about the death of her mother. She asked you to respect that grief, and you responded... strangely. It's here: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=6883#103868

I looked at your history. HRS, I don't think you are helping yourself by posting obsessively on these boards about feminists. You obviously feel very victimised, but I really urge you to talk a mate or a doctor (a male one!) about this stuff.

I'm sure this will annoy you, but nevertheless, I think you probably need an outlet for your anger other than Online Opinion.

I hope you find some peace and strength in the future. But I think you should stop with the nastiness now.