Yvonne

'For most of us women it gets enormously tiresome to be repeatedly beaten over the head with the same bleatings'

I see pot and kettle and....

That is hilarious coming from a feminist:-)))

Whitty, you are running in circles. I was referring to some men insisting on taking on the mantle of victimhood at the hand of feminists and repeating the same unsubstantiated accusations. HRS for instance will categorically insist that female teachers hate boys, that feminists hate men, that any woman who has anything to say at all about her experiences as a woman has the demise of all men as her agenda.

Feminism is not about destroying men. A feminist is not a woman who needs to physically, psychologically and emotionally destroy all man in order to feel good about herself.

It seems impossible to get across to some men, that it is quite possible not to want to condemn and destroy the male gender just because we have issues with some attitudes within society. It is quite legitimate to raise an issue that is experienced as offensive and query the benefits to the members of that society, as in assisting free speech or broadening a concept of morality.

Any man will tell you that they have met a man hating woman. I'm here to tell you I've met and had to work for women hating men. You can believe that or not.

The men in my life, I live in a male dominated household, are all extremely capable men. They can do lots of manly things-ride bulls, lay floors, cook a fine meal, do the laundry, build a shed and build great big biceps. The list is quite exhaustive, but you get the picture. Though they live with me, a feminist, and my daughter, a budding feminist, none of them feel victimised by us. They do not need to engage in silly power games over any woman to feel good, powerful and confident about themselves. They certainly are not victims.

That is why the 'bleatings' of some of the men on this site is really quite sad.

Whether a hetrosexual man finds feminists sexy depends on whether he wants a puppet for his starving ravenous ego or a person to share their life with.

How nice of News Corp to confirm my opinion of them, its like a bore at a party outing themselves before you get comfortable. I haven't spent 5 minutes reading anything from them in years, think i'll cut that back to 30 seconds.

HRS, "and no maligning of men or boys." - maybe not but there has been an enormous amount of maligning of feminists by yourself. A refusal to acknowledge that some feminists do say good things about men and boys and speak out against the extremists.

Your approach does much more harm to the cause of men seeking a fair go in family law and acknowledgement of the places where men and boys are maligned than any feminist could ever hope to achieve in this place. You cry wolf with such regularity that people are less inclined to listen or take claims seriously.

Feminists as a group or in most cases individually are not the enemy and your continued attacks on feminists divert attention from the issues we should be focussed on.

Time to move on.

R0bert

Robert,
It is probably difficult to class Audrey “Boys are made of slime and snails” Apple as being a radical feminist (as would normally occur is such circumstances), as her blogsite has been regarded as being one of the best Australian blogsite for 2007.

The concept that there are feminists who do not malign men or boys is based on very minimal evidence. While there may be men and women who do not malign men or boys, it is extremely rare that they would call themselves a feminist.

But you can find the literature written by a feminist that does not malign men or boys, and actually says something positive about men and boys.

That has been offered to a number of people on OLO (including Audrey Apple) and only one person has taken up the offer, and all they could find was some literature that was written by someone who called themselves a “dissident” feminist, (which I don’t think really counts), and they also chose Dorothy Lessing, who actually rejected feminism years ago, due to the discrimination and vilification of the male gender by so many feminists (and I think Dorothy Lessing is very experienced and well read)

If you are prepared to believe a feminist when they say that they believe in equality, then you would have to be prepared to believe anything said by anyone

I believe you Timmy.

Now do run along - I think Nurse Ratchett's just down the hall with a lolly for you :)