Leigh,

Don't give up mate. That is exactly what the islamic machine wants us to do. They know that sooner or later they can outrun us if they stay in the race longer. Islam has the numbers (life is cheap) to outgrow any population, regime, or opression.

Do it for our future generation. Don't let it happen to Australia.

Do it for the poor souls in bondage of their satanic verses.

Fellow_Human,

Isn't defending your faith the same as promoting it?

We “the people of the book” know that Islam is wrong at its core and our hope and prayer is that some intelligent people (we thought you were) could see the error they are promoting. But alas.

How many good militant Islamist does it take to create another 9/11.

And the source of their hatred is? Where do they get their teaching and inspiration from?

Your holy Qur’an Fellow_Human – your holy book.

Now can you see our frustration with you and the fat man?

Boaz and Coach,

You ignored my 2 simple questions above. I won’t hold my breath seems that your understanding of Islam modernization is to replace it with your faith : - )
It won’t happen.

Boaz:
“FH. I had to smile when you said a) "I have not promoted my faith"

Well, show me a single comment of me or any other Muslim on this forum saying “you must accept Islam”. On the contrary, every second thread of you or Coach urges others to accept your faith. I wouldn’t even need to comment if it wasn’t for your mob speaking ill of my beliefs. Here is an idea: why not just promote your faith without bagging others?

Coach:

“Isn't defending your faith the same as promoting it?”
Nope. It means I simply explained it as I understand it and practice it. According to our faith a Muslim can be saved by his / her own actions, deeds and intent. He/ she are not responsible for others and can only save himself. This is why you have hundreds of thousands of missionaries and we don’t. It is also why Muslims who preach non-muslims call it “Dawa” (Arabic for “invite to”) and not “on a mission to convert” like in other religious beliefs.

Do you find it fair that you spend all your time on OLO bashing a faith that it is not yours and dare to attack followers of the faith you are bashing for responding?
Do you see me doing that to your faith? Your understanding of ‘fair dinkum’ needs revision mate.

The difference between Islam and Christianity is hair thin. We both believe in Jesus (pbuh). Our disagreement on who he is should bring us closer together and not inspire animosity.

Peace as always,

Irfan,

I wondered how long it would take you to get back to sarcasm and silliness. I might, perhaps, be able to concede that the ‘conspiratorial’ Muslims are the Arabs. But there is still no excuse for the existence of Islam, particularly in the Western world, and most particularly in Australia.

Fellow Human,

David Boaz has, I believe, dealt with your protest very well indeed.

Coach,

Your are right, of course. Do what we can while we can. One of the biggest problems is that those of us who value what we stand to lose in Australia have one hand tied behind our backs by those many Australians who are naïve, wet-left, fifth columnists or whatever best describes people who are determined to connive in the demise of their own culture and way of life.

Irfan - I agree with you this time, so read it!

You're right on FGM being a cultural thing.

I think many are too willing to say it's an Islamic practice, when it actually IS cultural.

There is definitely a religious aspect to it that is important, however unwarranted, as you would know.

I'm glad Egypt has just banned it, I didn't know 97% of women there have had the operation.

Pay attention to the Mullah's in Egypt Irfan as they WILL make religious arguments for it in the coming weeks.

I don't know where I heard this, mabye you can enlighten me, but I have heard there IS a reference to FGM in a hadithe somewhere, although the Prophet didn't really like the idea apparently.

So, rest assured, when I talk to people about Islam I do correct any who think FGM is a religious requirement, although unlike many on the 'other side', I do point out that there are some Muslims who think it is an Islamic practice.

On another point which you would know but others might not, the burqa is also NOT an Islamic requirement, although the veil is?

And I have in the past accused you of not saying enough against Islamic terrorism, which isn't fair.

However, you must agree that the fact there hasn't been a mass protest by Muslims against Islamic terrorism doesn't look good?

TurnRightThanLeft,

I thank you for your kind words. Perhaps some of you others that attack me ought to actually read my posts. Disagree with them if you want, as TRTL did - but attack my reasons.

To think that one apostate has discommoded Islam and muslims so much is risible. What happened to that robust ‘we have 1.2 billion’ adherents blague? Is Islam just a house of cards after all, unable to withstand scrutiny?

Fellow_ H: And here's me thinking that you knew the Bible (a little) and you knew about your own pagan belief."The difference between pagan islam and Christianity is hair thin - we both believe in Jesus" What a load of rubbish mate and you know it is! The Christian Christ is the Son of God and there's over 300 prophecies about Him in the Old Testament, all fulfilled. Your pathetic jesus is only a (false) prophet he is not the same bloke. The real Jesus in human form was a JEW! And there's another constant recurring lie from you mob mainly that islam built a great civilisation in Spain, wonderful buildings and public works etc. Then these clever islamics went back to North Africa - well they were tossed out actually - and using their skills built a wonderful civilisation in North Africa which completely overshadowed the one they built in Spain. Oh! hang-on they didn't build anything at all that was outstanding did they so did they use pigs and monkeys to build what they left in Spain as some horibles who "persecute islam?" say.And now you are trying to claim Jesus the one time Jew. Regards, numbat