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Positive Muslim integration is possible : Comments

By Imran Lum, published 4/5/2007

Issues Deliberation Australia, far from turning ugly, ended up being a real eye opener for both Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

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What a delighting: “the fact that the Church of England split from the Roman so the English Monarchy could dictate religious policy via law. […] Thankfully most recognize just how large a step it is to go from religious authoritarian dictatorship to secular social law … and just how people like Hilali prey on that religious and cultural discombobulation”!

Making a liiitle step forward one might easily grasp all the artificial substance of dividing the people by faiths and confessions as this deed profits particular sheppard-es only - FINANCIALLY, at the end of the day, of course.
Posted by MichaelK., Monday, 28 May 2007 12:13:17 AM
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MichaelK., the only problem with putting forth a conspiracy thesis of religion being a "corporate" tool is to convince the average person to reject historical sequential facts. Religion, and a very great many there have been, preceded merchandising.
Posted by aqvarivs, Monday, 28 May 2007 10:05:44 AM
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aqvarivs,

Playing a clergy card is a danger for any multi-nations country.

Therefore, either of minorities a total oppression on a religious basis or logically leaving all the spectrum of religions in the socio-political life’s most unattended corners the seen options are
Posted by MichaelK., Tuesday, 29 May 2007 12:11:20 AM
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MichaelK., unfortunately I can only think of one religion that is during this era of human advancement oppressing it's people. Which is why to my mind the people have migrated to Australia and many other western secular countries. Unfortunately their oppressors follow to maintain the tension on the leash and we end up with situations the likes which are popping up in Europe, Australia, and United States. As I said in an earlier post. It is not the fault of the text. It is the individual and their willingness on how they choose to interpret. We are all responsible individually and then collectively. One does not excuse the other.
I am not responsible for the tenor of your post but, if what troubles you is real and a prevalent social negative then I do share a collective responsibility.
Posted by aqvarivs, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 4:34:43 AM
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Dear Aqvar....I didn't mean to be trotting out a 'party line' there bro.. sorry if it sounded thus..but I ask you... is the RC church fine with the idea of non RC churches which are not under its spiritual wing? if yes.. can you possibly demonstrate this with some documentation? If the RC church IS comfortable with Protestant denominations, then were are much more on the same page.

BAULKHAM HILLS 'Positive Muslim Integration' (apologies to Brushy)
Over 5 THOUSAND letters from local residents saying they don't want a Muslim prayer hall in the vicinity and the council said:

*(In rejecting the application) "the proposed house of worship would impact on the rural-residential character of the area and cause social unrest and antisocial behaviour. Also
the prayer centre was not considered to be in accordance of the shared beliefs, customs and values of the local community".*

Yet.. Abbas Ali the man behind the hall says:

"Mr Aly disagreed that a majority of residents opposed the development, saying there were just a vocal few who were against the prayer hall being built in the area."

COMMENT:

5000 letters of protest is 'a vocal few' ?

The appeal JUDGE said:

"While I recognise there is strong community opposition to the proposal and that the residents have real fears, these fears must have foundation and a rational basis, which in this case is absent,"

Rational fear is absent Judge? "MAY ALLAH DESTROY THEM" (Christians and Jews) Quran 9:30 ..is what I call the 'MAGNA CUM LAUDE' of rational reaons.

It was absent, because they did not know the Quran.. rest assured.. THEY DO NOW! Truth...is sometimes just a phone call away.

Brushy.. the 'Emperor' still has a job to do mate. (Romans 13)
Once he has done what is needed for state security.. the people can live in harmony. You don't have to 'glare at and swear at' people you are gently and lovingly deporting in the interests of community harmony:)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 4:57:50 PM
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BOAZ David, there has been for the past twenty years that I know of a ecumenical unification between Catholic and Protestant Churches and has been extended to include Judaism, except for the various orthodoxies(?), I'm unsure of whether they are involved or not. I'm also aware that both the Catholic and Protestant Church are reaching out to Muslim leaders with an interest in bringing them into the greater "relations" of Churches.

It took years of good will to bring the Christian Churches together and more to include the Jewish faith. We can not expect the Muslims to come on board with out allowing for an equal period of consideration
Posted by aqvarivs, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 5:53:32 PM
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