Irfan

My answer is no to your questions of me. Heard it on Southern Cross Radio.

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Irfan, if somebody dislikes Muslims or the Islamic religion that does not make them a racist! It might make them a religious bigot but it does not make them a racist because as you often tell us, Muslims come from many ethnic backgrounds. It is time for you to get your facts right in this regard.

Irfan,
If not liking the disposition and the braggart habits of a select group of worthless individuals such as the apparent minority of Lebanese muslim gang members who are long on mouth and short on intelligence can count as racist, then I'm one. Shame on their parents for poor stewardship.
I don't like the habits of muslims who take great delight in subjugating their women. I don't like the way they can stink up the place with their foul body odour. Does that make me racist? No.
I don't like my Korean neighbours either, mainly because they insist on cooking weird crap at odd hours of the morning. Does that make me racist? Not at all.
It is not compulsory for any of us to have to like the habits and doings of people around us. If those habits are as a result of a foreign cultural upbringing then they had best find a way to become Australian first, everything else a distant second. If you won't assimilate, piss off. If individuals or groups are going to step outside the bounds of the perhaps implicit majority determined socially acceptable behaviour then they draw attention to themselves and should expect. Until muslims recognise this and slap their miscreants into line, they will always get a bad rap. They need to remember that, as you said prior, they are in the minority and should comply.
Can't wait to hear what you say about this, Irfan. Probably nothing of consequence or truth, as usual.

Irfan,
Firstly, this group of people call, and boast, themselves "Lebs" because they think their race and/or their religion makes them superior to ALL others. Now that is racism. They are generally refered to by all as Lebs.

You have to be the only person in Aus, who is not a Leb muslim, that will not acknowledge that we have a serious social problem with Leb muslims. I had a retail business and I can tell you emphaticly that the female staff tried to busy themselves with other work rather than serve the Lebs who entered the premises. Why, because of the dictatorial, abusive and offensive manner of the Leb customers. So I am saying that you will not find those women, who have contact with Lebs in their daily work, speaking very highly of them. Nor will the girls who have put up with the harassment on the strees or at the beach.

It is not all sexual or by young males. I personally know of and old lady, in western Sydney, who is about the only Aussie left in her street and she has to put up with all kinds of harrasment on the street. Garbage and bricks are thrown over her fence that cause damage. Why, because the Lebs want her to go so they can get the house cheaply as no other Aussie will buy it. The police say they cannot do anything.

Do not forget the rapes in s/w/Sydney were racial crimes and police did not get them all.

Why do you defend this group of Leb muslims? You told me recently that the theology you were taught was to adopt the culture of the country you were in. This being so, the anti-social behaviour of the Leb muslims must be abhorent to you as to myself and others.

Are you suggesting that Lebs are not the only muslims that are anti social or are you saying that Leb christians are also very much involved in this also. It is important that the true culprits of disharmony are identified so others are not unfairly branded.

"I had a retail business and I can tell you emphaticly that the female staff tried to busy themselves with other work rather than serve the Lebs who entered the premises."

=> Gee, that is the sort of rock solid evidence we can build social policy on. Forget crime statistics. Forget social reality. Let's all go down to Banjo's shop and see the real world in action.

=> Banjo, you still haven't answered my question. Do you regard all Lebs and/or Muslims as problematic? If so, what are the problems, and what is your evidence that these problems are caused by their culture and/or religion. Thus far all I have read is references to events at your shop and what you've read on this forum.

=> If my employees refused to serve customers because of their race, I'd sack them. Money is money. Business is business.

Irfan,

You really think: "Money is money. Business is business"?

By the same token, a Muslim butcher ought to sack a Muslim employee who refuses to handle pork meat (as Islam claims pigs are unclean).

Or, perhaps you think this situation can never arise (because a Muslim butcher would never sell pork meat in the first place).

But why not? If 'business is business', shouldn't that Muslim butcher cater to his neighbourhood pork-loving Chinese population?

If "Money is money. Business is business" is a lie/half-truth, and that Islamic teachings are overriding consideration, then a devoted Muslim cannot possibly adopt others' culture like you mentioned on another thread: "...The theology I was taught was that a devoted Muslim should adopt the culture of the country."

Truth is, like I mention on that other thread:

<< ... crap. Of course you never adopt other's culture. You only live among Australians of different cultures, at the same time claiming your Islamic culture co-exists with ours. Your culture is dictated by your Koran. Ours are not.>>