Galty, your aspersions against Jews are as offensive as Israeli's aspersions against Muslims.

Banjo, if I recall correctly, you are the fellow who used to ring up the Stan Zemanek Show. Unless I have the wrong person.

I also note that one of the armchair nazis here has accused me of writing an article calling for sharia to be introduced into Australia. I'd like to ask this person (and I use the term 'person' in its widest possible sense) to advise:

a. When I allegedly wrote this article.
b. Where this article was published.
c. Which aspect of sharia I asked to be introduced.
d. Why my taxes should continue to be used to pay this armchair nazi's Centrelink benefits.

B_D begs us: "please, for once look at context of the Biblical accounts of judgments and wars. there is NO....repeat NO general command or example suggesting Christians should attack anyone. If you believe there IS, then quote it, and show by full context that it is valid as specifically "Christian" practice for today."

B_D should perhaps talk to the many people from the Christian Right in the US who claim that the Iraq war and the slaughter of Muslims by "Christian" American troops is part of God's plan in the lead-up to Armageddn.

Or maybe B_D thinks they also have gotten the context wrong.

B_D, what do you make of Danny Nalliah's call for Christians to tear down Buddhist, Hindu and Masonic temples using Biblical references? What about the Dutch Reformed Church's support of apartheid using Biblical references? Or how about the widespread support for slavery among Protestant churches hardly 150 years ago using Biblical references?

What can I say? The dogs bark. The caravan keeps moving right along.

Aqvarivs you may make excuses for Christian terrorism but the fact remains. The IRA, Serbians, Sandinistas were all religiously mobilised. Serbian death squads were not cleansing their state of bad citizens who avoided paying taxes. The supremacy of their god was the backbone behind their idea of state. Christianity has not taken responsibility for its actions since the dark ages but from Northern Ireland to the killing cellars of Argentina it was the belief in god which justified such atrocities. The Vatican owes its very existence to Mussolini; it supported the Holocaust and allowed Hitler to install his own state Archbishop as a symbolic gesture of the Christian values that the Nazi party Championed. The Vatican bank rolled Franco. Protestants invented communism, to live in the community of Christ. Stalin an ex-clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church merely adopted the tried and tested principles of Calvinists, Quakers and assorted puritan communist communities. Stalin’s reign of terror was no more horrific than Cromwell’s. Without the belief in God there is no justification for most of the horrors of history. Without the ‘god given’ justification to crown Charlemagne emperor of Europe we would have no god given supremacy to stamp out indigenous communities and indigenous laws. If prostitution is the oldest profession, belief in god is the oldest motivation for crimes against humanity.

I don’t play dungeons and Dragons or worship deities or whatever you want to call it so to me there is no difference between Christians and Muslims.

To believe in a god a person has to be delusional, yes it’s their problem until they take it out into public and become a nuisance. It’s the belief in the end of days which makes them dangerous. I am confident in my life time there will again be Christian terrorism as there has been in the past on par with current ongoing Muslim terrorism. Where there is the belief in God there will always be violence, there always has been.

I cannot trust both Muslims and Christians , the lives of loved ones are not worth risking.

We are not talking about 150 yrs ago Irfan.Let's talk about postWW2.Look at the total body of evidence instead of being a selective petal plucker of facts who massages logic to suit your own rose coloured version of Islam.

Even George Pell is now trying to ride on the resurgence of Islamic facism by tring to dictate to us the sentiment and flavour of what is said at our funerals.Religious dictators are just simmering below the surface waiting for their day in the sun.The concept of god is a flawed human foible based on weakness and narcissism.We only cling to this concept when there is nothing left to fill the void.Poor ignorant people cling to notions of god while the wealthy get on with learning and enjoying life.

I have yet to hear of one mad Mullah commiting suicide in the name of Allah.Those in power use religion to enslave the masses.

Time to grow up Irf.

This is all related to multiculturalism. If we didn't have it we wouldn't be having this argument now. Australia doesn't need either of these two groups. Both cause more problems than their worth. They both come half way around the world from their own crappy countries to Australia, the best country in the world and cause nothing but problems. Honestly why can't they both just go home.
A country is a reflection of its people and their personalities. If we want Australia to be more like where these two groups come from, let them keep coming here. If we don't, and its my belief that the majority of Australians don't, we need to stop this mad idea of multiculturalism. Australians need to finally stand up and tell both these groups to shape or go home.
I'd prefer to see both groups sent home. There is absolutely no proof that either of them is of any net benefit to Australia. Please just go home.

West,

"Without the belief in God there is no justification for most of the horrors of history"

This is what I have been saying in my posts all along that religion is used as the excuse to justify a lot of the killing. You kill your evil enemies in Gods name then it is no longer murder but a holy act. But mankind is not that holy and kills for gain not holiness.

Some like the IRA are honest about why they kill because they feel they have a justified reason to kill. Because the British marched into Ireland in the 16 hundreds and set up British colonies the decendants of which still govern Ireland. The IRA have always said they kill to take back control of Ireland. Hence the name Irish Republican Army. They feel they have right on their side in doing this, and so they have no reason to use religious excuses.