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Misreported, misconstrued, mistranslated, misunderstood : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 23/2/2007

One can't help but to compare the barrage of abuse faced by the Sheik Taj Al-Din Hilali (perhaps deservedly) with the indifference to Professor Raphael Israeli's offensive remarks.

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"Christian extermination of paganism in Europe "
Shucks West I like it when you nearly get it;
That era was Charlemagne; Regardless of rewritten history, that era was the precursor to advanced civilization (Again), just measure the time gap between the fall of the Roman Empire and the return to Barbarism; to a firm hand and a system. It seems to have been forgotten, it was the same that destroyed the Romans as what will destroy us; be it not for Charlemagne; there would be a good chance we may well be all little Mohammedans performing un-surgical Lobotomization instead of Modern day Intellectual Lobotomization that transpires from Proletariat Idiotic being.
Then we end up back to primitive Barbarism.

Around we go again.
Posted by All-, Thursday, 22 March 2007 3:44:37 PM
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I am glad you brought the "era" up all. Not withstanding subsequent witch hunting and excorcisms the fact that Christianity and Islam undertook to ethnically cleans paganism lasted an era. Even though the Ester festival still exists with bun and bunny in tact and (economic) slaves still get a day off on Saturnalia and gift giving and birthdays survived the alledged but if true the plagerised teaching of Christ. There are two dimensions to your fogging off history because it is from the past. The first is that as Christianity has demonstrated in its past that ethnic cleansing is a ghost in its machine. Ethnic cleansing is not separable to the spirit of Christian beliefs nor Islamic for that matter. The other is as we know you worship Jesus All. Jesus if he did ever existed died long before Christians gained power and began their program of ethnic cleansing. To say that the lives of people between 100 years ago and 1500 years ago are diminished as far as suffering , pain and turmoil are concerned because they are past really assasinates the worth of the life of Christ. Jesus died before them if he ever existed. If somebody being burnt as a witch 400 years ago does not matter then a dubious historical character of 2000 years ago such as Jesus does nopt matter.
Posted by West, Saturday, 24 March 2007 11:32:58 AM
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"I read two out of the three articles that you referenced (the first link didn't work). How exactly are the 20 to 30 million strong Christian fundamentalists influencing "life for the rest of us?""

Snappy Tom really needs to escape from that catfood can and travel a little. Christian extremists have supported the US invasion on Iraq and are now trying to support an invasion of Iran. They have raised money for illegal Israeli settlements in the occupied territories, including on the outskirts of Bethlehem involving the bulldozing of Palestinian Christian homes and churches.

Christian extremists in the US are the dominant Christian denomination in the southern states of the US. They are open about their armageddon theology which is threatening to spark an all-out war in the Middle East which could spread very quickly.

Snap into reality, Snappy Tom. A recent Chatham House survey showed that support for Bin Ladin has hit rock bottom in the broader Muslim world. This is supported by other surveys and polls. But polls consistently show support for the agenda of Armageddon Christianity is rising in the land of the free.
Posted by Irfan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 12:24:53 PM
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irfan: You and your fellow moslems are total fools or you are practicing the very deceitful, but normal to islamics, TAQIYYA and/or HUDNA. Yes Christian fundamentalists are a worry, you say that they have raised money for "illegal?" Israeli settlements including the bulldozing of Palestinian Christian homes and Churches. Irfan if you were fair dinkum you would admit to the moslem palestinians destroying far far more Palestinian homes and Churches as well as desecrating the later. These mindless pagan moslems are driving the Christians out of the areas where they have been living in for years. And moslems including the saudis have and are giving much more money to islamic (are there any others?)gutless terrorists. At present I do not see any Christians creating mayhem with acts of insane terror bombing - do you irfan? I do not see any Christians be-heading moslem school GIRLS - do you irfan? I do not see any Christians involved in (DIS-) honour killings - do you irfan? I do not hear of any Christian group killing teachers in front of the young students even cutting their throats - do you irfan? Yet wherever pagan moslems have settled in whatever nations all of the above are occurring aren't they irfan?
By the way have you read in this morning's Australian newspaper the story entitled "HUNTED THE WOMEN OF THE GAZA" It seems that eight women have been murdered by "brave?" armed islamic males during a 10 day stretch. These, moslem I may add, women had been ONLY accused of immoral behaviour some for just fraternising with men outside their families. Irfan I do not want these pagan, gutless, miserable, judgemental psycopaths in the fair land of Oz thank you very much.Regards, numbat
Posted by numbat, Saturday, 24 March 2007 1:28:19 PM
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"Irfan if you were fair dinkum you would admit to the moslem palestinians destroying far far more Palestinian homes and Churches as well as desecrating the later. These mindless pagan moslems are driving the Christians out of the areas where they have been living in for years."

numbat, I think you should travel to Bethlehem and provide your information to the mayor and Palestinian Christian leaders there. Also, you might go to Ramallah and the Bir Zeit University and provide your information to Christians there.

Because what you are saying will clearly be of surprise to them. Still, what would they know? After all, they only live there. Surely the world inside your skull matters more than the real world they live in and face with their fellow Palestinians of Muslim faith each day.
Posted by Irfan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 1:40:00 PM
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irfan: Quotes from "The Daily Mail" - The towns (Bethlehem) Christian population has dwindled from more than 85% in 1948 to 12% of its 60,000 inhabitants in 2006. There are reports of religious persecution in the form of murders, beatings and land grabs. The town according to Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor is being slowly strangled. The sense of creeping islamic fundamentalism is all around Bethlehem. George Rabie a 22 year old taxi driver from the Bethlehem suburb of Biet Jala is proud of his Christianity even though it puts him in daily danger. Two months ago he was beaten up by a Salvation Army band err NO! sorry he was beaten up by a gang of moslems who were visiting Bethlehem. Every day I experience discrimination. Jerez Moussa Amaro is another with first hand experience that Christians face. Five years ago (GET this irfan!) his two sisters, Rada 24 and Dunya 18 were shot dead by moslem gunmen (brave warriors eh irfan?) in their own home. The terrorist organisation, the al-aqsa martyrs brigades claimed responsibility (Well irfan who else but brave? islamics psychopathic blood thirsty thugs) So much for your pathetic excuse these criminals are the same religion as you and they should not be let into this country as they appear as sub-humans eh irfan? Regards, numbat
Posted by numbat, Saturday, 24 March 2007 4:09:38 PM
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