Irfan,

You're absolutely right. If the boot were on the other foot the Jewish lobby would go into overdrive. A letter campaign would bombard local politicians will hysterical cries of antisemitism. Prominent members of the Jewish community would contact labor party donors and demand action. Politicians would come out demanding to know how this man obtained a visa. Articles would be printed in all major newspapers about the threat of the rise of antisemitism. Australia, it would seem, was in peril of a neonazi takeover. Donors and sponsors at UNSW would be contacted. Some, fearing the impact of a negative public relations campaign, would cancel deals. Any university facilities would suddenly become 'engaged' or 'unfortunately double booked'.

My advice to the Muslim community (apart from dobbing in extremists) would be to follow the Jewish lead: become organised, get MAINSTREAM politicians in parliament; employ native English speakers as spokespeople, study public relations, form lobby groups and DONATE to political parties. Employ PR firms if necessary.

There is no group better at manipulating public opinion; if you are to improve the lot of Muslims, you need to learn from them.

Poor Irfan, he can't help himself! Once again he exposes himself, despite all his guile and not playing it straight with his readers on this forum, as being a wolf (read true Muslim believer) in sheep's clothing.

Comparing Hilali with Israeli! The former expressing his TRUE FANATICISM and Muslim duplicity in all his statements, the latter giving a hearing to the TRUE FACTS.

What next Irfan?

See NEMESIS-http://www.con.observationdeck.org

Reynard: Calling moslems pagan is what they are, they worship hudna (I think that is this false god's name) the moon god of mecca they even have the moon on their flag. Hindus/buddhists etc are also pagan meaning they also worship a false god. In the same vane I describe other people as European, Asiatic or African calling islamists pagan is not really an insult it is just what they are in my eyes. And again they are an insane brutal misogynistic death-loving hate filled totally anti-democratic pagan religion - don't believe me then read the newspapers. Not all islamics are terrorists but 99.9% of all stinking cowardly terrorists are islamics. Yes there are supposed to be islamic moderates but they are so bloody quiet that they are seen as one with the gutless killers of unarmed men.women.children and babies. Regards, numbat

Hilali must ache for the day when Muslims reach the critical mass in Australia, as they seem to have done in France. France has a problem that will eventually smother French culture as Muslim numbers are increasing at a much greater rate than that of the French. There are supposed to be some five million now and by 2070 they will comprise the majority of France’s population. Australia needs to wake up before we reach this critical mass.

MUSLIM REFUGEES MUST GO TO MUSLIM COUNTRIES, WHEN ACCEPTED INTO AREAS OF WESTERN CULTURE THEY ARE MOTIVATED BY THEIR FAITH TO EITHER CHANGE THE POLITITICAL AND LEGAL SYSTEM TO THEIR MODEL OR DESTROY IT. I AM SURE IF HILALI COULD PUT OUR WOMEN UNDER BLACK SHEETS AND REMODEL OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM TO WHERE THE SYLLABUS INCLUDES RECITING THE KORAN IN ARABIC HE WOULD.

Just incidentally, before the sheik's cat-and-meat speech how many Australian judges made similar comments during rape trials? I seem to remember it occurring a number of times in the seventies, eighties and nineties. The name Callinan springs to mind.

Eet's post is excellent

I remember that during the first Gulf War, Israel used to trott out old Bibi Netanyahu who was at that stage Tourism Minister or something lame. But why did they get him out? Because he spoke excellent English with an American accent, and wore a suit, and spoke in crisp sound bites.

Not like Saddam, or Arafat, or a million other Arabs in their teatowels, their broken English and inability to say speak directly into American TV viewers loungerooms.

They didn't realise that their own presentation might have played to Arab sensitivities, but not to Western.

And don't forget, this is where war and politics is won or lost these days, as it was in 1991 or in Vietnam.

Yes, the Arabs need all of what the Jews have - Saudi money funnelled into Beltway lobbies and thinktanks, sympathetic filmakers, a whole entertainment industry, an ability to diversify its 'role models' and 'archetypes' away from the middle eastern desert and into the leafy US suburbs and European cities.

And dozens and dozens of congressmen and other parliamentarians worldwide, not banging the drum loudly but playing the pipe softly and luring the ordinary people away from their prejudices on middle eastern affairs.