Dear Banjo

In your most recent post you said that: "Did not a prominant Muslim leader once say that muslims will conquer the world through the wombs of muslim women?"

I think that you might be confusing this perceived scenario with the actual words of one-time Algerian President Houari Boumédienne, who in a speech at the United Nations in 1974 said that: "One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."

Mind you, a Norwegian-based Islamist, Mullah Krekar, told the Oslo newspaper Aftenposten in early 2006 that by 2050, "30 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim." Why would this be so?

"Just look at the development within Europe, where the number of Muslims is expanding like mosquitoes," Krekar said. "Every western woman in the EU is producing an average of 1.4 children. Every Muslim woman in the same countries are producing 3.5 children."

Irfan says that "... there are many kinds of Muslims. Some practise the faith, others believe in its tenets without practising and still others have a cultural affinity to it. Rushdie belongs to one of the latter groups."

This may be so but what guarantee is there that increasing numbers of Muslims in Western democracies won't be more like Mullah Krekar (a supporter of Obarmy Sin Laden by the way), rather than like good-time seeking ex-Muslims such as Salman Rushdie?

Well, well ... it's the last ball before tea and Graham Young rolls over a slow ball. Irfan clips the leather ball behind him with a neat flick of the wrist and trots through for an easy single. The double century has been scored.

Snappy Tom,
Sounds and looks like you have the correct quotation. I think it was that Algerian bloke that I was thinking of. I could not recall the exact quote and that is why I put it as a question.

The implication of what he said is the important bit.

Thank you for that and the addition information

I have to say that Irfan created an excellent opportunity for many of us to get a few things of our chest.

I've learned a lot. One is that Boaz and Banjo neither would be happy chaps if one of their kids came home with a Muslim as partner. Reminds me of my father-in-law 40 years back. A most devout (daily!)church going European Christian (the peaceful religion!) who gave his daughter a broken nose and cut of her hair when she wanted to marry her highly educated young man-who happened to be Muslim.

To the Christians, if indeed the Muslims are going to slaughter us all you should be Okidoki and not be so petrified. It could all be God's mysterious plan, you believe you'll be resurrected anyway come judgment day.

I was fortunate to grown up where many religions were practised, so got to see a few of them up close. My conclusion is that if there is indeed one God (which I doubt very much) He/She would hopefully be horrified with what gets said and done in his name by all 3 Judaism, Christianity and Islam. I've read both the bible and the Qu'ran, both obviously translations. I don't know if I should confess this, but the Qu'ran made a little bit more sense to me than the overly edited, multiply translated group of books that makes up the bible.

'The religion of one age is the literary entertainment of the next'

- Ralph Waldo Emerson.

One day Jehovah, Jesus and Allah will be relegated to the status of Zeus or Thor. When this happens society will have overcome its addiction to monotheistic tribalism and then be able to build a more rational and peaceful community.

It is only a matter of time till the likes of Hilali, Irfan and Boaz become extinct like the T. Rex and the dodo. Future generations won't miss them nor their small minded opinion pieces.

Actually the more I think about this thread the more predictably pathetic it is. Of all the visiting Professors, scholars, writers, and dignitaries that visit Australia Irfan had to pick a JEWISH one. And surprise, surprise Irfan is a Muslim.

So, here we go again. The Islamic preoccupation with all things Israeli. This piece of Muslim psychopathology is engrained from birth and reinforced by every visit to the Mosque. And now its in Australia.

If only the Banu Qurayza hadn't been such turncoats....