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Taking a stand for all animals : Comments

By Katrina Sharman, published 20/12/2006

Billions of animals are suffering in the US and Australia, but there’s hope in the wings.

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The D Grade Dullards' pathetic attempts at duping Graham Young and breaching the moderator's rules will not go unnoticed.

PETA SUCKS (radrage), AUSHUNT (freerangemeat AKA the gryphon) and SAMBAR HUNTING (the gryphon AKA freerangemeat).

And the anticipatory graphics on Sambar Hunting, displaying the dullards straddling their prey of bloodied stags and deer in Victoria, whilst bragging about the ".7mm mag to put him down for the count."

Mmmmm........0.7mm - now I get it!
Posted by dickie, Friday, 16 February 2007 7:18:35 PM
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Dickie seemed to have an innate affinity to things that are sized at 7/10 of a mm. So confusing, both metric & imperial bullet diameters. His solar powered calculator gathers more dust while sitting next to the good as new Roget's pocket thesaurus.

And the definition of cruelty spins in the ether while the AL intellects shout MORE oops, more legislation now, more legislation now, more legislation now, define it later, define it later.

Warm fuzzy feelings resonate throughout Paddington and Glebe.

Feelings of superiority are enhanced. The CV looks better than ever; which is great since the RSPCA is hiring more inspectors.

Cruelty, what about this as a possibility -- cruelty exists when an event causing physical and/or emotional harm to an animal occurs if said harm is worse than what happens in a natural environment (wild).

If animals are our equals then why should they be able to eat their meals alive when we can't? Absolutely discriminatory. It has to be healthier. Equality, when do we want it? Now! Equality, when do we want it? Now! Equality, when ..........
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Saturday, 17 February 2007 12:12:07 AM
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some more outstanding posts from CJoe..

Yes i do wonder if the dickie is not connected to the hierachy of this forum the way that he openly accuses and abuses other members that surely have right of reply.

And when that right of reply is offered Mr Venom goes into top gear...no mention of the savaged sheep in the Weekly Times though......hmm nothing offered there at all.

Ah a little digressing required for now. I dont eat them but our central Australian Aboriginal friends do and "them"? feral cats....what would an AL person such as dickie suggest we do with this scourge...i`ll bet it wouldnt agree with Dr.John Warmsleys proposals of ridding Australia of cats period..hear hear.

That rat making a meal of Tom Kitten all those years ago seems to have the right idea and of course the Chinese have been eating them for aeons.
Posted by freerangemeat, Saturday, 17 February 2007 6:09:47 AM
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Radrage,
Here's an example of something other than 'Animal Law' being called on , by the RSPCA, to address cruelty to animals. They're asking for diplomatic and trade sanctions,as opposed to 'new laws' as the solution to this particular instance of cruelty.
http://blog1.rspcasa.asn.au/

Another thing that I think might be useful, re Cruelty to Animals in general, would be to hold a PUBLIC summit..or series of summits. Things to discuss might include:-
*Workable Standards of 'just kindness' (including defn.s of 'cruelty')
*The breakdown of communication between the different interested parties
*..what else?
Posted by Heather, Saturday, 17 February 2007 7:04:20 AM
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The result of a recent Young Lawyers essay competition is troubling for the direction in which Animal Law is being encouraged to go.

A disempowered Public (which SHOULD be an equal societal power) seems always at the mercy of the other 3 powers, specifically here The Judiciary. The essay competition's result exemplifies this. In reality, it is The Public which is the societal power which holds the best (but still dormant) power to change the lot of animals, Thus, a disempowered Public power = a lack of empowerment of any SUFFICIENT voice for animals!

The essay does raise the 'the sentience' vs. 'the property value' debate. That debate IS needed but the manner of it's debate, ie, in case law, wasn't challenged .. and that's an indication of the trouble with this essay's win!

ALL animals are entitled to the benefits which The Judiciary can potentially help provide them with. This is why the 'animal sentience' issue & Animal Law itself must find how to have an input when STATUTORY laws are made/ammended! For this to happen, there must be a tweaking of the system such that law-making/ammending (including ammendments making it easier to enforce exisitng Animal Protection Laws) is done in conjunction with Public consultation and input (at the micro-decision making level, not JUST the macro-democratic level of 'a vote every 4 yrs'!) because The Public is a valid stakeholder in the issue of a Just Kindness being extended to ALL animals, not just those animals whose human stakeholders can afford to help, albeit inadvertently, Animal Law be subsumed into the existing system that ensures that justice follows the money trail only!

The 'winning' essay is at
http://www.lawsociety.com.au/page.asp?partID=18277
This essay's win indicates a likely road for animals outside the 'chersihed by someone' category .. where they loose out on human kindness being extended to ALL animals. The Judiciary shouldn't take case law's convoluted steps when billions of 'other animals' are suffering NOW .. in rodeos, crammed stow stalls, un-monitored saleyards, live animal processing lines! They deserve The Public's help (aided by The Judiciary, The legislature, The Executive) right now.
Posted by Heather, Saturday, 17 February 2007 4:25:05 PM
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Here are some people that have got a good day to enjoy soon,in fact it amazed me as to how many people in Aus have subscribed to this day and plans.

http://peta.isfullofcrap.com/

Interesting that peta dosent rule the world (and never will)
Posted by freerangemeat, Saturday, 17 February 2007 9:53:42 PM
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