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Australian citizenship: removing the welcome mat? : Comments
By Peter van Vliet, published 5/12/2006There is a shift away from a welcoming citizenship process towards a more selective or exclusive process.
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Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 14 December 2006 12:45:14 PM
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http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/England-History/Invaders.htm is, as understood for "non-Pom-expert", of importance only for local native –English speaking rednecks endlessly deliberating and abusing each other and outsiders definitely for using a worldwide accustomed term “Anglo-Saxons” rather than “Anglo-Celts”. An Anglo-colonial illiteracy and stupid arrogance of British subjects Kosovo-shaped already terrorist and murderer Hicks is the perfect example of, once again appeared in your message with mentioning of “English” English in WinW spell-checking: my computer has been equipped with Australian variant as well alongside with UK, American, pidgin-English and some others. I value my time to further pay attention to your remarks could have been preached somewhere in the London Underground at the time appropriate. Posted by MichaelK., Friday, 15 December 2006 11:31:12 AM
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Michael K - ? ? ? ?
The word "whatever" springs to mind. Posted by Col Rouge, Friday, 15 December 2006 3:15:47 PM
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Col,
In 2001 the five most commonly spoken languages other than English were Italian, Greek, Cantonese, Arabic (including Lebanese) and Vietnamese, with speakers of these languages together comprising 7% of the total population. Your own command of the English language is commendable - especially for a salesman! But hang on, you only know and speak one language? Why is that? Posted by Rainier, Friday, 15 December 2006 3:51:39 PM
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Rainier “But hang on, you only know and speak one language? Why is that?”
Because I have no need to speak another (better to be proficient at one thing than mediocre in many). If I did, I would doubtless, gain proficiency in that other. It is called “doing what one needs to do and not doing what one does not need to do”, Fundamentally it comes down to simple time management. Alternatively, some folk, with more time than things to fill it, busy themselves in acquiring redundant skills like languages they never need to use or follow the pursuit archaic crafts for their own amusement (and good luck to them) etc. That 5 diverse subgroups comprise merely 7% of the Australian population proves my point. They would be more liberated and less susceptible to exploitation by gaining a proficiency in English than limiting themselves to the confines of their ethnic ghettos, by building a wall from a deficiency in English. So how many languages do you speak Rainier? Posted by Col Rouge, Saturday, 16 December 2006 6:14:22 AM
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Col, there is no such English word as "pidgeon". I think you mean "pidgin", or perhaps "pigeon". With respect to your comments about others' proficiency in English, we have an old saying in this country that states that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Posted by CJ Morgan, Saturday, 16 December 2006 7:22:44 AM
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You just don’t get it, do you Michael?
The point I was making about “English” and its “Anglo-Saxon” heritage; Angles and Saxons both invaded “Britain”, following the period of Roman de-colonization in the 5th Century. The Romans had previously displaced the Celts, remembered most notably when Boadicea, being one Queen of some Celtic tribes, fought against Roman occupation (without success).
(http://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/England-History/Invaders.htm)
English is a melting pot of language. It has evolved and been adopted, rightly or wrongly, by a significant part of the world through a:colonization and b:trade . That Australia is “English Speaking” is a result of colonization. That 99% of the population of Australia speak English is a fact.
RE “neo-racist approach in this English semi-colony to non-Anglo-Saxons/non-Anglo-Celts happened being trapped in Australia,”
Reading between the lack of English grammar and punctuation;
Maintenance of a single common language is not a side effect of any “neo-racist” policy, it is a concequence of expediency and accident of the migration trends which have shaped Australia.
As a policy, a single common language is a much better thing than the sort of mess which Canada has got itself in, with “English” predominant in most places and French being the “official” language in Quebec.
As for “Microsoft World creators and technical support services, of whom Grammar and Spell Checking has been used and appreciated worldwide”
Well I suggest, in future, you use the version which covers “English Grammar and punctuation”, because, whatever pidgeon version you are using, it has no relation to the “Oxford” version, concise or otherwise.
Regarding “Even among traditionally imported British monarchs Queen Victoria is remembered in history AND for her poor command English, which does not devaluate her reign as the most substantial upon English royal millennium.”
I would suggest, you should “get some rungs up the ladder” before you start suggesting anyone else lacks a command of the English language.