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Reflections on a multicultural nation : Comments

By Andrew Jakubowicz, published 15/11/2006

The energy directed against multiculturalism has been truly evil, for it has been advancing an agenda of superiority, while disregarding the consequences.

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BOAZ
Sounds like a good protest, you need confronting visuals like (coffin..RIP Multiculturalism ..etc) to bring peoples attention too the truly most important topic for ourselves and future generations of Australians. To get their I would have to have an interstate flight, but I wish you luck with any future protest.

BrainDrain

You do not believe we are walking on a knifes edge. Well what ‘edge’ or path are we walking on. I will tell you and sight real examples of this knifes edge.

If we slip down the left of this knife’s edge we will hurt ourselves with something called a police state! If we slip down the right side of this knife’s edge we will cut and hurt ourselves with something called ‘mass violence, terrorism social incohesion etc’.
but you and many others unrealistically think we will tip toe our way along the length of this knife picking up little benefits that haven’t quite yet slipped to one side or the other making them unattainable. You seem to think this is a worthy ‘risk’ for the benefits that lay along this knife edge ‘piece of fruit, dance move, etc’

that’s the knife edge just their, real example? Melbourne terror arrests not sure the specific number 15 odd I think. Wanted to kill 1000+ people stopped by us slipping down the left side of this knife. London 52 people killed ’slipped down right side of knife edge’, more attempts still happen their. One day England or Australia or any other multicultural country will slip so far down one side that the ability to get back on the edge will be unattainable and mass exodus will occur.

In summary of that particular point you must be prepared in the ever nearing future of up to 50, 100, 1000+ people being violently slaughtered ’London tube, Madrid’ from the very policy you want. And when something does happen that has never happened in this country before(or since white Australians & aboriginals fought) ill be thinking of BrainDrain, eating his Chinese food and watching it unfold on the Tely.


Cont..
Posted by obviously, Monday, 11 December 2006 2:43:57 PM
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Continually pointing out petty things in my post like spelling mistakes means your running out of ideas or struggle to debate properly. And you and I both know there is a difference between word choice & spelling mistakes so attempt to refrain from comparing what I wrote and quoted to that of what you wrote and quoted.

Oxford Dictionary
Ageism- Prejudice or discrimination against people solely on grounds of age.
Ok the stupid part is more emotional and uncalled for then prejudice, but in context with young you do have ageism. ‘young and stupid’ is as bad as ‘black and stupid’. Why the hypocrisy in your disintegrating argument. BranDrain you need to Confront your Ageism.

'Mans (sic) greatest wars do not lie in our past but in our ever closer multicultural future.'
OK genius - show us the rationality that led to such unemotional logical deduction?

Allegiances! If we were to go to war with Lebanon our troops in Lebanon are in danger. I cant help but feel we will have to put up a frontline in Sydney somewhere.
Answer me this question

1/ If Australia went to war against Lebanon will Australia internally become more dangerous because we have Lebanese Muslims predominately in Sydney. More dangerous at least in Sydney.
Yes and you know it would be.

That statement means if world war 3 or any other big war broke out you will have to be prepared for a civil war, with no team colours, no lines in the ground, neighbours nervously peek threw windows at other houses in the street, not sure if that’s an enemy or simply a neighbour. Mass paranoia, Mass confusion, complete irreparable social unraveling.

What I have on my side or better put it what most makes me think I’m correct is this...

‘History doesn’t repeat itself but it rhymes.’-Mark Twain
‘History repeats itself; that’s one of the things that’s wrong with history.’-Clarence Darrow

so you Braindrain who thinks a civil war wont happen I assure you it will, today, tomorrow, 40 years time & your grand kids will be involved in it,-they-can-thank-you- and-the-like-for-that.
Posted by obviously, Monday, 11 December 2006 2:48:33 PM
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RObert: "That's one of the wonders of this forum that one one topic you can agree wholeheartedly with someone and elsewhere completely disagree." You are wrong I don't "completely" disagree with you elsewhere. Can't you read? I may disagree with your position in one or two aspects. We are not the bastards that others like to make us out to be.

RObert says: "I also have a fundamental disagreement with any situation where an entire group is vilified because of the actions of a part of that group that the others have no control over." That is debatable RObert – your position elsewhere is confusing.

Just to let you know that I do not believe in vigilante actions of any kind. I believe in the rule of Law. I am no “Saint”.

You have partaken in the "Assassination of Ronnie" (reference- a movie "The Assassination of Richard Nixon" may be a little close to home mate but watch it anyway). Nevertheless, consider this: You may recall certain people suggested that Col walked out on other certain people - did I (metaphorically speaking)? Doesn't that tell you that I don't think all members of that group are violent and even if a man is violent they are nine out of ten times (just an expression) able to overcome it with help. Doesn't my willingness to discuss tell you that I am interested in your truth (not the slag offs)? I am not going to change my mind on certain things just to make you feel good of fit in RObert I respect you too much. (Continued)
Posted by ronnie peters, Monday, 11 December 2006 4:36:11 PM
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Christ is supposed to relate to everybody. If everybody isn't involved, then it is sectarianism - an ideological structure. I try to be open to any group (even, to a point, certain men who need anger management) - I don't care if it is grandma's making scones; feminists explainng their postions; hard men remembering wars; men telling their side; farmers complaining; pensioners demanding better bus services; dentists asking me questions with their fingers shoved down my throught; the guys and girls up at the metal wards - I embrace them all and love listening to their lives. It is all about human beings and people will slag you off because they have no imagination to assist them see the beauty in most all people.

The whole thing of life is to learn off each other. Some are so caught up in their own history that they forget that others have a history too. Listen to this RObert! Don’t you think that to a person who holds to this thinking is going to find your attitude (elsewhere) to be offensive and react? I hope it is unintentional. No matter how much we disagree I still respect your views and think from what I have read highly of you as a person –but none of us are perfect. And sometimes we simply must disagree. My culture is different to yours - simple as that. In my culture men take responsibility for the safety of their women.
Posted by ronnie peters, Monday, 11 December 2006 4:46:22 PM
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Rainer: The good police don't flog anyone. Sometimes bad cultures develop where they shouldn't be.

Ronnie,

Well that “sometimes” variable isn't good enough for me to safely rely on for my safety. (Thanks but no thanks)

No cameras were there on PI.

Law of averages suggests the colour of my skin and Aboriginality is much more criminalised by police in Qld than someone who is overweight. It must be my bad luck as I always seemed to get bad coppers. Yes I know they are not all like this, but statistically the deaths in custody so far tells me I should never presume otherwise.

I'm meet you at Hershel Street at 2am this Saturday morning and see who gets questioned or nicked first!
Posted by Rainier, Monday, 11 December 2006 5:01:54 PM
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OBVIOUSLY my young cobber:)

Just because you can’t make it to Melb for that demo, does not mean you cannot run one YOURSELF :)
We can do a youtube special... “Australians stand up for cultural identity”
“Australians nation wide reject Multiculturalism”
We can stir up interest in MIRC and use ‘opinion’ columns in the national media.
I’ve already alerted one high profile Media ‘blogger’ of what we plan, and he thinks it should be ‘very interesting’.

Why not consider it and co-ordinate.... yes RIP MC would be a part of it I’d say... which is your city ?
jdrmot@tpg.com.au if you wish to discuss some possibilities.

RONNIE...am I recognizing the rising of some racist rabidity in your recent retribution (oops..contribution :) to this rambling thread ?

“Boaz old mate I promise you I will never lose my “own cultural and social identity “ in any process”
+In my culture ? (being?)

You raise some very important points Ronnie... and in a sense this is part of the key to a great future. Ultimately, things will come down to the predominant culture having the biggest ‘say’. But at the same time, we can graciously see what is good and bad in tributary cultures. FGM clearly is a badddd thing and for those of the view that its good, we can biff in the ear with some stern words. NO..its NOT a good thing !

Ronnie..there is a difference between ‘losing’ and being enriched. Surely you would not resist some tasty dish becoming part of your potential menu items right ? A very good example is one I experienced myself.
One of my workers was Philipino, and invited my family to a get together at their place once. They served this ‘Philippine fruit Salad’ which I just could not work out. It had these lumpy bits in it which were so scrumptious I could not believe it. They turned out to be coconut gel. Now that is a part of our own list of yummy things :)
Would you object to your daughter marrying an Islander or Italian on racial grounds ?
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 11 December 2006 9:10:28 PM
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