ahhh the alchemist, never fails to dissapoint. did anyone see foreign correspondent last night? they had this group of religous wackos trying to 'convert' homosexuals, seriously disturbing stuff.

Carl

I work with a group of people who are the poorest and most disadvantaged in the country. This does not change my view on abortion as their is unlimited people waiting to adopt these unwanted pregnacies.

You have no idea what my attitude is towards homosexuals. I am having lunch with one on the weekend. That does not change the fact it is an unhealthy lifestyle that should not be taught as optional at schools.

You have a right to believe that myself and other bible believing Christians are all that is wrong with this country. Maybe you should encourage the likes of Mr Bracks to legisalte further against free speech. This would surely add to a balanced debate.

A simple correction Runner…

“That does not change the fact it is an unhealthy lifestyle…”

No, it should be “That does not change “my opinion and that of my faith that” it is an unhealthy lifestyle..”

Yes, you can believe what you wish – as can every person on this Earth (God-given or otherwise).

Wouldn’t it be better if people simply acted out as a result of their faith, rather than cry it far and loud to all, as if to justify their actions?

Wouldn’t God be happier if people acted out as a result of good conscience and compassion for all, rather than condemn those who don’t believe the same – letting God make the judgement and taking the steps to bring the lost back to its fold (if in fact that is what happens).

The louder the religious cry/scream/bleat the more I fail to hear and doubt the conviction of the religious. I think about it and I have never had cause to doubt a Buddhist. I wonder why…

"Runner" is so predictably representative of the "Christian" right - advocating that women should be forced to undergo unwanted pregnancies and the pain of childbirth in order to supply adoption agencies. No probs ! women are just breeding machines. No matter if they have been raped by their father or the local priest. And of course homosexuality is unacceptable. No doubt you are only lunching with one of the Unclean in order to save him.

As usual, Runner demonstrates the sad truth that the prurient focus of these "Christians" is on peoples' genitalia and reproductive systems. Concern with current mass killing, especially of innocent civilians, caused by war does not register on the radar of the armies of sexually obsessed, who typically use Christianity as a front to disguise their little problems. Please get your nose out of other peoples' groins, Runner.

runner, "myself and other bible believing Christians"

That bible believing thing is a real concern to those of us who have read it. There are some bits in the old testament which some of us really don't want in our society. There also seems to be some confusion as to what it means anyway. When I was younger there were groups of bible believing christains which insisted women were head coverings to church, there are very few who still believe that bit now. Sells as a bible believing christian has an interesting thread running where he appears to be saying that the bible does not support the idea of a literal heaven or eternal life. That list can be added to fairly easily but I'm guessing that you will get the point if you try.

So what is bible believing really mean other than a catch phrase to legitimise the picking and choosing that all christains do regarding the bible.

R0bert

Spot on Alchemist!

Your post perfectly illustrated what an oxymoron the term "Christian Right" is.

So much for Christian morals and values.

It almost seems that, to the Christian Right, if you're not rich, you're not a Christian.

Hmmm...the terms "camel" and "eye of a needle" come to mind...