Alan, you ought not be surprised at the lack of transparency and the hypocrisy of the Christian right in dogged pursuit of their conservative political agenda. Watch the responses to your article on this site. They will bleat here that they are the only true Christians and will dismiss anyone who opposes their extreme position by the use of mindless labels like 'lefties', 'the un Christian left' and 'fringe elements'. They will bleat here about national and ethnic traitors to the sunburnt country. They will drag all sorts of red herrings across the path - Aboriginal issues, free speech, national identity, education, terrorism. What they won't do is debate the guts of what you have written.

In the main agreed, even if expressed with drama, perhaps matching theirs but not quite so self righteous.
Why?
Why do people believe in this sort of cant whose expression is often the destruction of others, first named evil of course.

Do people need an aim in life which can be satisfied by this , an apocalypse at Jerusalem’s site now Jewish owned leading to the second coming. For the believers. The true members leading the battle sword on high self promotion excelling.

Sanctity or the entry coin to Heaven?

So to the Nazis and Communists and all those whose creed brooks no doubt.

What do they believe , the ten commandments, love others as yourself do unto others and similar not forgetting smiting ones enmities, I.e. anyone disagreeing.

Name something evil and your writs is stamped with an exemption for your acts, even those of arousing others for the kill of the heathens.

Cognitive dissonance!

David

I apologise for suggesting that non Christians have no moral convictions. I have met non Christians who have such convictions. I also have no problem of the views of the Christians and non Christians being scrutinized. The recent Christian forum was well publicised. I suspect some of the pollies were there because they thought there might be a few votes while others really believe that we need to look for God's help in our land. One of my strong convictions is that Christians whether in politics or not should have nothing to hide. I personally appreciate someone on the left or right that calls a spade a spade. I totally disagree with you that abortion is a side issue. When up to 80-100 thousand unborn babies are murdered each year I call it a national tradegy and disgrace. I consider it a major issue when we don't value the life of our most vulernable.

You may consider issues such as low paid workers and the destructuring of the trade union movement as being of utmost importance but I don't especially comparing it to killing unborn children or brainwashing our youth that homosexuality is normal. Our worldviews are obviously a lot different.

Christians and non Christians alike are involved in helping people with disabilities and giving to the poor. I along with most people in this nation am involved in those issues to varying degrees. That should not silence us from speaking out on other issues that are of concern to us.

As a non-believer, my only interest in religion is the threat of Islam. But it always amazes me that many Australians are concerned with the so-called religious right among those of their own kind, while pandering to and accepting Islam – the only real threat to freedom and democracy needing to be dealt with today.

Religion has no place in politics, in my view, but people with views based on their religious beliefs have always been in politics, and there is no law against it. So, while we can, as individuals, avoid voting for a religionist candidate, that’s about the limit of our say, as long as we remain complacent between elections, as we have always done.

Mathesons’ contribution is tainted with the usual churchy-left hostility towards anything conservative: factual history instead of moralising historians, more men than woman, elite private schools, values which do not tie in with his own and, of course, business which provides the wealth for him to carry out his own activities without having to take any of the responsibility the people and institutions he criticises have to.

What Mr. Matheson does not mention is that one of his fundamentalist Christians, Senator Fielding of the Family First Party, advised of his intention to vote against the bill which would have had all illegals processed off shore, after being gulled by Papuan deserters in Australia. Thought he would have approved of that one.

The trouble with these left-lurching church types is that their experiments in meddling with politics have failed. Their institutions have failed. The pendulum has swung, and a new group holds sway. Atheist though I am, I know whose side I’m on in the defence and well being of my country

Wow. A communist/sympathiser getting upset at Christian groups for being politically active. That's original.

Then complaining that a Christian group doesn't support the same agenda as you. It's not like the democrats haven't used the same line in the last month.

Oh wait, then you get upset that these Christian's exercising their democratic and constitutional rights and freedom of association don't choose the speakers that you would like. Get over it.

How about something new Alan.

I am a left wing Christian, however I cannot find disagreement with David Boaz.