Dear FrankGol

I'll take the challenge....

You claim that the author rightly noted 'Lack of Transparency' in Christian organizations. Then that we responded with many irrelevant side issues.

I note with interest that Alan was able to discover without too much difficulty apparently that CCC and Perichoresis sponsored the ACHNF.
What might I ask is 'not transparent' about this ?

Alan goes one level deeper.. "faceless men" and turns it into a GENDER issue ? *curous weird look...why?*

And why...does CCC sponsoring an event HAVE to mean the event itself is something to do with the 'religious right' ? Perhaps... just perhaps it is a gathering of like minded people who feel a common blessing in Christ and look to Him for guidance in terms of the pre-amble of our constitution ? Bear in mind, these people were most likely ELECTED if they are parlimentarians, so...what's the beef ?

Alan cites a veritble shopping list of left wing issues, some of which would be viewed as outright immoral by many of us. For example, 'destruction of trade unions' would never be needed if they did NOT use bully and strong arm tactics to force their power on others. When I see a sign on a building site which says 'No ticket, no job'.. a deeeep anger rises up inside me.

The other things Alan mentions are all TWO sided coins.

But the CEO of the largest liquor retailer who he mentioned, does seem a bit off and odd to me. I do take issue with that, but not for the reaons he does. He just substitutes a 'left wing political' alternative, whereas I would suggest scrutinizing the speaker purely in terms of his activities in the light of Scripture.

Most of the rest of Alans piece is 'yawn, blah blah sour political grapes from what I can see' and irrespective of any deficiency in the suitability of particular speakers, he totally misses the point of our definitely 'Christian' cultural social heritage, which if I'm not mistaken is what the seminar was about ?

The funny part is many of the GB post's don't get that the Author is a Christian. But then again he can't be a real Christian cause he isn't rich, what is it they say at hillsong "God wants you to be rich". Bottom line is the Christian left try to live as JC instructed via SOTM. While right wingers try to tell others how to live using the "TC" many of which they ignore themselves. I tell you there is little daylight between some right wing Christian groups and the taliban.

YngNLuvnlt, strictly speaking Buddhism isn't a religion. It's a "way of life" and does not worship the Buddha or any other god for that matter. You'll find people of many different religions studying Buddhism along side atheists. All are welcome to study the wisdom and lifestyle of the Buddha and many find the experience extremely rewarding, unlike worshiping some god invented by primative tribes with which to use as a weapon to hold their tribe members in check through superstition and fear. You'll find no such fear or superstition at a Buddhist meeting which may be one reason why Buddhism is growing at a huge rate in tolerant countries such as Australia.

I don't care how many meetings these people have. What I care about, is their need to tell everyone else how to live to their set of morals.

I have my own morals and I actually live by them.

Alan
In another post I suggested that wealth and tax records be in the public domain.
If such were the case you would not be speculating on who bankrolls Perichoresis.
The road to a society free from biased and self-serving opinions is disclosure.

Parish meetings are always held to devise the best christian outcomes in government and business, directed from above. Many meetings in Kew, consisted of monotheistic factions (except islam) deciding who they'd support during state and federal elections. Always including powerful religious businessmen and bureaucrats.

Until now, they've had no illusions they could present to the populace, instilling enough fear to force their agenda. Controlling freedoms, suppression of minorities and free speech. Now the 3rd faction stepping up to bat, using tampered with bats, balls and rules, not one hair of truth on all their heads.

No matter what evidence's presented showing monotheistic and political collusion destined to usurp our lives and instil the chaotic control of Yahweh, monotheists will dismiss it. Monotheists are pathological liars, displayed in psychopathic outbursts of righteous indignity and delusion. The reality of monotheism's, in the incomprehensible illusionary babble, they constantly spew out insanely, in desperation to create some semblance of truth, in their floundering self-destructive illusions. Reading through posts of rabid god followers, you'll find little sustainable truth, just repeats of their psychopathic babbling drivel.

Constant lies about supposed terrorist attacks, from religious politicians, allows introducing more suppressions, infantile religious indoctrinations, driving wedges between sections of the community. Whilst putting the resources and assets into the hands of religious institutions and controlled monopolies. Add the verifiable reality of god, its mission and how its followers express, shows we're already under religious control.

Our media's in the hands of the religious right, food supplies, fuel, governments. The only solution we have is to get rid of the party system, putting in a system making every candidate fully transparent and accountable for what they say and do. More importantly, we need a vaccine/cure for the terminal psychopathic illness, called god. After all, we must show compassion, towards the afflicted and not treat them as they'd treat us.

God works through fear, nothing else. To instil fear, you have to create circumstances, by lying about reality,. i.e. Gods a good bloke.

Now thats not to harsh is it Bushie, thanks cobber.