YngNLuvnit - educate me. "There weren't as many species around then" So where did they come from? Surely they can't have (whisper it) evolved?

“Isn't that as plausible as Noah packing all the world's species of animals onto a Bronze Age boat (there are tens of millions of insect species alone), or Moses parting the Red Sea? Given the shortage of water across most of Australia, I reckon the story of Tiddilik is more useful.”



You didn’t just seriously say that? It amazes me how people with 11 year old concepts about “god” and “Christianity” make the absurdist claims. If you’re going to bash at least don’t bash from ignorance. There are a lot more serious and thought provoking issues in Christianity worth debating. Since it would take all of 5 minutes in google to see the official position on such absurd assertions I have to assume the poster must know that Noah didn’t shove a million insects onto his ship and is just trying to stir.

Clearly there are both historical and theological links between Christianity and a dislike of animal cruelty. Sorry to sidetrack this thread briefly but I wanted to bring to your attention another forum in case any Christians wanted to share there as well.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/animal_equal_consideration/

Michael4Love I promise it isn't just another one of those ones where atheists make themselves feel better by inviting Christians, attacking any who contribute, then rationalising the lack of contribution as evidence that Christians are cold hearted animal haters.

Sorry if I derailed the thread. Perhaps I can kick start it again.

Jasper BBB

“Judas”
Interesting comment. Was it personal or were you drawing an analogy between ex-Christians who preach atheism and Judas in that Judas had a great opportunity to save souls but his well intentioned behaviour got someone killed and he lost all ability to do good for himself and others and you think ex-Christians are leading people to hell?

Alan Grey / Pericles

“If there are ten thousand, then there are ten thousand and one possibilities, with me so far?

However, every time you add another to the list of possible candidates for being the one and only, you increase the chances of none of them being right.

In fact you can actually show statistically that it is impossible for any of them to be right, given that there can only ever be one correct answer.”

Unlike yourselves I lack formal training in logic. Perhaps that is why I fail to grasp your logic / adopted logic. Surely ten thousand would have no impact at all on whether or not none of them are right. Surely it would simply increase the chances that if you were to randomly pick one it is unlikely to be correct (even if one is correct). I really don’t see how it makes it statistically impossible for any to be correct.

My reasoning lacking the benefit of your training would consider it like this. Say you have a ball with an x on it and you threw it into a vat with 999 balls (sorry about the symbolism). Surely the ball still has an x on it irrespective of it’s companions (even if there were 9999)? Please give me the benefit of your learning to explain my illogic.

Robert

“If you want to see excessive rudeness, veiled hatred and generalised attacks on all believers ... Not all christians, just some.”

If you want to see “unveiled” (real cf. “veiled”?) hatred look at many of the posts where atheists describe Christians in other threads. Not all atheists just some.