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Lebanon role compromised : Comments

By Don Rothwell, published 11/8/2006

Do Lebanon's failings justify the scale and intensity of the Israeli assault?

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DB you are appalling. The land you want to cleanse is Lebanese and is not the land of Israel. How dare you put up this vile stuff?

We know who the PLO were, we know who Hezbollah are, we know who they all are. We are not brainless morons.

Israel has a huge army, it is not under threat. All this anti-muslim, kill 'em, murder them stuff is nauseating for people like me who just want them to stop killing each other.

How dare you?
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Sunday, 13 August 2006 8:35:32 PM
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Well I look at it this way.
Hezbollah want to kill the people of Israel.
Israel want to kill Hezbollah.
I am amazed that the media can only find innocent women and children to run in their stories.
I want to see the battle plans.
I want to see the strategies of each side.
Why can’t the media show us exactly what the men are doing – presumably more than just killing innocent women and children?
And what does it have to do with us anyway?
When groups are at war, let them fight it out to see who wins.
Why spoil it with a cease fire?
Posted by Cav, Sunday, 13 August 2006 9:07:37 PM
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Marilyn Shepherd

You can smother me with me kisses, you can smother me with dreams. You can always be the mistress of my schemes. ...

Actually I don't want you to be the mistress of my schemes - it's a yukky thought.

But I note that in a previous post you said the following about Israelis: "Barbarous savages is all we can call a population that wants to murder civilians."

Hmmm, isn't this the kind of wild, absurd generalisation that you are prone to decry from others who disagree with you?
Posted by Savage Pencil, Sunday, 13 August 2006 11:01:10 PM
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Keith,

How is wishing you the same that you obviously wish me and mine being a bad loser?

Did you even read the links?

Did you see that the lies that I have previously pointed out, were admitted by Siniora and Nasrallah? Did you not see what Nasrallah is trying to incite? Do you seek to continue to advocate his vision for the middle east, knowing that it will inevitably lead to a massive war, some thousands, and perhaps if it goes nuclear, some millions of times worse within 5 years?

He is trying to incite the Arab/Persian world to attack Israel in force, do you not comprehend what this means? OR are you actually evil, or just a maladjusted psychopathic loser?

Do you not understand that this places the world into the most dangerous situation it has ever been in since Kennedy & Krutschev’s tete-a-tete regarding Cuba?

Do you understand what this result means to the Lebanese who have spoken out against Hizbollah?

Quite frankly Strewth, please stop encouraging this child, you appear to be mature enough to appreciate the danger this planet is now in….

And for those that think Israel is doomed, the world best hope that it is not:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/indepth_coverage/military/proliferation/countries/israel.html

http://www.cdi.org/issues/nukef&f/database/isnukes.html

This war was lost due to the inept strategies adopted by Kadima, not due to lack of ability of the IDF. However, Israel and America are both to introduce weapons designed to defeat the tactics adopted by such an unprincipled and cowardly enemy (including utter disregard for their civilians, the world does not care):

http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,58094,00.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/blu-118.htm

This war was lost when Olmert/Peretz decided to proceed without forces on the ground, then to adopt the recently discarded ‘proportionate’ incursions. This will hopefully lead to his replacement, I suggest Mr Netanyahu would be appropriate, and given past form, I suspect that the next installment may consist of a massive pre-emptive strike, I wonder who on?

Hang on, Keith are you by any chance in the age bracket likely to be conscripted?

Also, where on earth does the idea that Israel 'HATES' Lebanon come from?

Inshallah

Aaron
Posted by 2bob, Sunday, 13 August 2006 11:08:06 PM
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"Just exchange prisoners"
"- Why is the Israeli government ‘democratically’ detaining more than 20,000 Lebanese indefinitely and without charge?"

Who are those prisoners?

First, what about dropping at least 3 zeroes: according to the following: http://www.arabmediawatch.com/amw/Articles/Analysis/tabid/75/newsid395/2946/Lebanese-prisoners-in-Israel/Default.aspx
the correct number is 4, plus some 25 Lebanese citizens convicted for ordinary criminal offenses.

Out of the four, one is convicted of espionage (and has taken up Israeli citizenship), one is charged of operations against Israel, another is a Hezbullah MP, but the primary person that Hezbullah really seek to release is Samir Kuntar, who murdered 4 Israelis in cold blood, including a father and a little girl at their home, smashing her head. When he attacked that family-home, the mother managed to hide, but she had to choke to death her other 2-year-old daughter so that she does not cry and disclose their presence. He was given 4 consecutive life sentences -
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200607/INT20060718b.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samir_Kuntar

Having made a personal promise to the Kuntar family, Nasrallah is obsessed and will never stop, no matter what happens to Lebanon, until his murderer friend is released... or until he himself takes the trip to hell.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 14 August 2006 2:24:09 AM
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Holy cow,

You're an advocate for Nuclear attack. You're really not the full quid...are you 2bob?

You don't bomb people you love or respect. You don't bomb people who have not attacked you. You do those things when love, respect and democracy are replaced by hate.

You attacked a fellow democracy, Lebanon, under the guise of attacking Hezbollah, and tried to usurp not only it's territory but also it's sovergnity. You failed and were beaten by an army adopting tactic's suited to defeating such aggression. You learned nothing from the lessons of Vietnam.

The world told you to stop.

The US gave you your directions...and watch how eagerly you heros jump to the yankee tune.
The Yanks won't let you use your nuclear weapons. Wiser heads will prevail than the Israeli's, if you are indicative of the general Israeli population's attitudes.

I stopped reading your 'research' once I realised you kept changing the loonie tune to suit circumstances.

Long term, war will not occur, peace will reign. What'll occur is Israel will be returned and confined to it's pre'67 borders as per UN resolution 242. The Yanks will be forced by world opinion, to make you comply. The militants among the Arabs will lose support because most of the Palestinian problem will be solved with that simple action.

All that remains will be the enforcement of UN resoluton 192. Eh mate?

Here is some logic for you to ponder.

If you think me 'evil, or just a maladjusted psychopathic loser' or both, then you go on ask me if I am of an 'age bracket likely to be conscripted', given that your experience with conscription is limited to the IDF. THEN it follows you think conscripts in the IDF are evil, or just maladjusted psychopathic losers or both.

And that about sums up in every way your attitude and approach. Hopefully there are wiser and more cluey heads than yours in Israel.

Finally the IDF rush to the Litani is seen for the Monty Pythonesque exercise it was. Laughable really.

Have a nice life, warmonger.
Posted by keith, Monday, 14 August 2006 2:28:14 PM
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