Arjay, I take your point however, Iran is its own worst enemy. One way or another, the writ of their current political authority will likely be over before the end of the decade.

DB – I am sorely tempted to heckle the rabble who will doubtless turn up to show solidarity with terrorists. However, I could plan to have my toe nails trimmed on that day (a far more important matter than heckling the impotent) and I would not wish to obscure the police cameras as the take holiday snap of the trolls.

As for the PLO – you are correct, expelled from Jordan on the basis of their disruptive influence on that nations stability. The only commitment Arafat has ever kept is to stay buried now he is dead (I guess it is a long way back up from that particularly level in hell which he now resides).

If you can muster a “you are appalling” (with 2 “L”s) from dear Marilyn, you cannot be doing too badly.

Marilyn “We are not brainless morons.” In your case I am sure the jury are still out on that one

It is all a bit much.
over 3000 years ago the Assyrians invaded Israel, as the northern part of today's Israel was known. There have been repeated invasions over the millenia so whats the point of worrying about it ?
It won't be solved in our time I guess.
I am not sure just where the Arabs came from, somewhere north east of the middle east I believe somewhere around 200 ad I think.
They moved in after the Romans expelled the Jews and are surprised when they came back.
The only problem that I can see is the lack of backbone of the Lebonese Government to control the organisation of the surrogate's of a foreign government. It would be like the Australian Government allowing an organisation operating on behalf of say the Malaysian Government to harris the PNG government over timber rights from Australian territory.

Even with a resolution for peace Israel will keep on killing. Israelis just see Arabs as 'untermenschen' and their deaths as inconsequential.

At least some good news though - Joe Lieberman was disendorsed by the Democrats. What a buzz. Could it be that the Americans are finally working out who is responsible for the mess in the Mid East? Maybe it's time the Zionist lobby in the US started putting US interests above Israel's. With their enormous wealth and power it's probably a pipe dream, but at least it's something.

Marilyn
you are not reading my posts......

"Humanly speaking"........ did you 'get' that ?

I've outlined HUMAN solutions, to human problems. That which 'works' and that which does not.

Such outlining as I've done, is based on history.

Such solutions are without question only necessary because of mankind's alienation from the Creator.

The parable of the good Samaritan shows this fact. A hated Samaritan helps a Jew on the side of the road, while the Priest and Levite walk on the other side of the bleeding man in disgust and revulsion.

This is indeed key to the solution to the dilemna of human conflict.

While you may portray and perceive my human solutions as 'appalling' and refer to 'Lebanese land'.. to me its just 'land' and the people are what determine how the soceo geographical management of that land should proceed.

If those living there continually hurl rockets are another country, then... its just possible that the other country will ultimately get 'pissed off' enough to deal decisively with them. Half hearted measures won't work because of the IDEAS driving Hezbollah and Hamas.
They would both view Palestine as an 'Islamic Waqf' (look this up)
While they retain this view, no amount of 'roadmap' or peacedeal will have any lasting impact.

http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html

Article 9 Hamas Charter:
As to the objectives: discarding the evil, crushing it and defeating it, so that truth may prevail, homelands revert [to their owners], calls for prayer be heard from their mosques, announcing the reinstitution of the Muslim state. Thus, people and things will revert to their true place.

Article 11

This is the status [of the land] in Islamic Shari’a, and it is similar to all lands conquered by Islam by force, and made thereby Waqf lands upon their conquest, for all generations of Muslims until the Day of Resurrection.

Note the key words...'CONQUERED BY ISLAM BY FORCE'.... and think.

I for one, will oppose this:
Personally.
Politically.
Socially.
Spiritually.

MISUNDERSPINNING

Misunderspinning and misunderwinning: The US and Israel Don't Get It This Time
By John E. Carey
August 14, 2006

President Bush is known for his malapropisms. Some are merely ascribed to the president; he doesn’t hold the copyright.

“Strategery,” became the title of a book.

But these buzzwords tell us a lot of how the people in popular culture view their leaders and their world.

President Bush said on Monday, August 14, 2006, the first day of the cease fire with Hezbollah, that the "responsibility for this suffering lies with Hezbollah."

"There's going to be a new power in the south of Lebanon," Bush said.

"Lebanon can't be a strong democracy when there is a state within a state and that's Hezbollah," Bush said.

We might assign the new word "misunderspinning" to President Bush right now. If he believes any one of those three statements he is very badly advised or just does not understand the Arab world.

First: Responsibility. Arabs, and all the Lebanese, are blaming the droppers of the bombs, Israel, and the provider of the bombs, the US.

Second: New Power. Who? The UN? Since when? Hezbollah is the people of southern Lebanon. They collect taxes, provide welfare, sit in the congress.

Lebanon as a strong democracy. Oh really? People who are familiar with Lebanaon doubt that it is as many in the west believe. Lebanon is an Islamic state now.

Now for Israel, my word is: “misunderwinning.”

Israeli leaders are claiming tremendous gains, if not outright victory on one side of the border, and issuing a veiled threat on the other.

To continue reading, go to:

http://extendedremarks.blogspot.com/2006_08_02_extendedremarks_archive.html

or go to:
http://peace-and-freedom.blogspot.com/

People like Marilyn Sheppard will only look at the immediate emotional reality of people being injured but never at the reality of what brought the Middle East to such a calamity in the first place.They are incapable of looking at the big picture because it interfers with their ideology and political allegiences.

If the US wasn't there,who would secure the vital oils supplies to the rest of the world?Would China or Zimbabwe do a better job?

I'm no Israelie apologist,however I don't have to put up with the constant suicide bombings in my country nor the constant threats of annilhilation from a facist religious philosophy that wants to impose such ignorance and subjugation on the rest of the world.The Jihadists are more evil than Adolph Hitler.

It is about time that the Fundi Muslims learnt their place.