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We must be willing to be unwilling towards Israel : Comments

By James McConvill, published 7/8/2006

Israel has changed the parameters of the axis of evil in the latest Middle East conflict.

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Dear Rayann,

"Let me tell you that those that claim to blow up in the name of Allah are in fact committing criminal acts. There's a line in the Quran which states that if you kill one person it is as though you have killed the whole of humanity. "

You say so but facts differ. I have been hearing those words "In Islam, we don't kill..etc"

Let me ask you, When Mohammed did that genocide of Jews in Saudi Arabia, I can say that He is a mass-murderer. What do you say?

As mohammed is muslim's role-model, the jihadists do the same murder in the name of islam. Figure it out.

Indeed those people are sadly Little - Devils (Read Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses )...Satan's agents doing the commands of Satan's verses.
Posted by Websters, Monday, 7 August 2006 6:29:12 PM
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When the west committed the holocaust in whose name was it done?

There is a racist divorce from reality in the pro-Israel lobby that scarcely seems to bother with any truth, just repeats the same deranged Israeli mantra.

It was Israel who supplied the erroneous information about WMD in Iraq and look where we are all now. Tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.

They used a bogus video to justify a massacre. Fair dinkum I wish you would read some history.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Monday, 7 August 2006 6:43:16 PM
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Shepherd, the "West" did not commit the Holocaust, Nazi Germany did -our Enemy in the last war in case you didn't realise. Moreover, the demonic states in the Middle East are the Sharia states of Iran and Saudi Arabia. The mistreatment and abuse of women, minorities, non-Muslims and political dissenters are beneath contempt. These religious dictatorships must be forced to change, by any and every means at our disposal. The disproportionate focus on Israel is just a ruse to keep the attention away from these monstrous oil-rich entities.
Posted by Kvasir, Monday, 7 August 2006 7:02:55 PM
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Imagine if Mexico had a band of militia armed to the teeth funded and armed by say Italy/Vatican, ie. Swiss Guard who then kidnapped two Americans. And that militia, having placed themselves among civilian houses south of the border, fired rockets into San Diego after a long history of provocation and building up its armaments, the US retaliated killing some civilians. Where would your loyalties lie?

Would you tolerate a Hezbollah with their shadowy links to the Mullahs and money to buy hundreds of rockets to fire into civilian areas?

I really feel for the people of Lebanon. This is rotten. But what is the option, "appeasement in our time"? These latter day crusaders for the mullahs must be held back and the UN has done NOTHING (as usual).

As to the Israelis themselves, Nietzsche, the German philosopher summed it up succinctly....
"The whole problem of the Jews exists only in nation states, for here their energy and higher intelligence, their accumulated capital of spirit and will, gathered from generation though long schooling in suffering, much become so preponderant as to arouse mass envy and hatred. In all contemporary nations, therefore - in direct proportion to the degree to which they act up nationalistically - the literary obscenity is spreading of leading the Jews to slaughter of every conceivable public and internal misfortune
Posted by Remco, Monday, 7 August 2006 7:07:36 PM
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Yes, it is scary, Geoff, do we go after the ones doing the most killing, or the ones without weapons who wish they could.
Certainly the ones doing the most killing are the ones backed by the Americans as well as the American military. And the US pilots of course, who with no ground opposition dissimilar to WW2, the pilots with their guilt must find it hard to sleep at night. Same with the Israeli pilots as well as the Arab rocket men.

So you can see how difficult it is for Humanities Schools lecturers who are trained not to take sides, but to look at things ethically. It is why they need to spend much of their time in thinking and discussion and stay shy of fundamentalism.
Posted by bushbred, Monday, 7 August 2006 7:12:06 PM
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Websters,

I say that you need to read the biography of Mohammed written by Karen Armstrong before you make any claims of 'genocide'.

Once again, let me clarify that the 'jihadists' who commit murder are criminals who debase proper Islamic teachings and principles.

Islam denounces and abhors the killing of innocent civilians; however whether those who claim to practise this faith adhere to this is another issue entirely. Just as in Judaism and Christianity, the killing of innocents is condemned. Yet there have still been crimes and atrocities committed in the names of all faiths, doctrines and ideologies.

Remember the Sabra and Shatila massacre and the Oklahoma city bombing?

Rayann
Posted by Rayann, Monday, 7 August 2006 7:37:37 PM
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