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Battle for the Kingdom of Heaven continues : Comments

By Sheree Joseph, published 10/8/2006

Muslims and Christians must learn to work together as a unified body in the Middle East.

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Dear Fellow_human,
Huh?
You take it easy too.
Posted by tennyson's_one_far-off_divine_event, Thursday, 17 August 2006 11:48:21 PM
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Fellow_Human,

This article is about the kingdom of heaven and not the brothel of Mohammad that is described in your religion.

You criticise Christians for not having love. Again I ask you what do you know about love?

Allah did not die for his people did he?

I pray that you and all mislead religions of this world discover God's love and accept His invitation to become His children in His kingdom.

Christianity is not about just being nice and caring for one another - although it is important - but about understanding and accepting God's way of salvation.

Salvation (being one with God - through Christ - enabled by the Holy Spirit) is by faith (in Him alone) not by our works and deeds. You don't have to blow yourself up anymore to impress our God.

God has saved us once for all... so why do you still follow an ancient peganistic religion instead of the real GOD?

Wisdom comes only from God and not from man. Ask for it and you will see the lie you have been fed all these years.

It is easy to follow the crowd and conform to a religion - but to follow Jesus takes real guts.

Do you have what it takes?
Posted by coach, Friday, 18 August 2006 8:21:50 AM
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"It is easy to follow the crowd and conform to a religion - but to follow Jesus takes real guts" - Coach

Coachy boy, you're just not listening. Though to be fair, I suppose you kind of have to edit out the parts you don't like.

You want to talk paganistic? lets start with witch burning. Glad it's not done anymore, but for a contemporary issue, how's the catholic stance on condoms working for Africa these days? Or aren't they the 'right' type of christian?
Perhaps we should all indulge in some 'paganistic' ritual, where we pretend bread is flesh and wine is blood, and all devour somebody symbolically. Wait, sorry, that's one of your rituals... sorry, I got confused with the pagans for a second. Let me just consult with a witch-doctor, oops, I meant priest.
Cause priest aren't part of a religion apparently. They're just, gosh darn it, mighty fine emissaries of god, who can understand him oh so much better than the rest of us plebians. that's why the church was allowed to rule europe during the dark ages. They were just so darn enlightened they managed to keep science and medicine back for decades. Good on em, right? that just leads to naughty things like stem cell research.

You say it's easy to follow a crowd and conform to a religion. I say, it sure is. You've done it admirably.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Friday, 18 August 2006 8:56:43 AM
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Coach,

I am beginning to think you are an automated software or a 10 year old boy because you don’t get bored of throwing the same crappy comments over and over again.

“Allah did not die for his people did he?”

In our faith he doesn’t need to.

“I pray that you and all mislead religions of this world discover God's love and accept His invitation to become His children in His kingdom”

Whoever thought of the above statement needs immediate medical attention: a sofa and a therapist.

Enjoy your version of Religion, and let others enjoy theirs.

Salam,
Posted by Fellow_Human, Friday, 18 August 2006 9:31:40 AM
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The variant nature of Moses, Christ and Mohamet will mean how their followers will view the very nature of God as lived by them and spoken of in their teachings. What we really believe about our God is expressed in the very nature of our actions and attitudes. Though they as we violate the image of the ideals of our God, there is confession and responsibility to turn away from sinful actions. So we must examine what actions they turned away from and what actions they believed were sanctioned by their God.

Moses was involed in establishing family nationalism and laws for Israel so God was involved almost exclusively in the goals of that vision - not world domination - they were to be a light to the nations.

Mohamet in his early life was impressed by the 2nd Talmud so focused on the idealism of national unity under monotheism. However when opposition arose to his teachings, was involved in enforcing monotheism by death/or/submission upon opponents and focused upon world domination with his understanding of religious law.

Christ stated his kingdom was not political but spiritual and submitted himself to his political persecutors. The worship of the followers of these faiths is the worship of the character, attitudes and actions the leaders sanctioned as expressing the very nature of God. Worship of God for Christ's followers is not the worship of a self centered being up in the sky who demands out submission. It's the worship of the idealism of character, purity of attitudes, heroism and selfless actions, the supremacy of wisdom, the immagination of creativity, the blessedness of relationships that enhance life and community. Man was not created to obey laws, but laws were given to define boundaries for wayward man. Obeying laws and rituals does not define who we really are, they are merely social institutions
Posted by Philo, Friday, 18 August 2006 9:36:04 AM
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For every man the very God we believe in is expressed in the character and motives of who we are. The conflicting nature of the three teachers will never be accepted by all. For instance a Christian cannot accept the nature of Mohamet as to his view that God sanctioned the marriage of adults to six year old infant children, of sex with 9 year old wives, the agressive murder of opponents, and the taking of females as sex slaves [still practised today in Africa and Indonesia], the practise of honour killings [as practised by Muslim Australians] etc.

These practises conflict with the very basis of how we as Christ's followers view life as designed by God to live in community. Someone has to denounce certain behaviours as not of God before reconciliation can occur. Because these views will influence the boundaries of law making, and how we live in community. If the behaviour of Mahomet is the set standard for society then the nature of the behaviour of the Middle Eastern cultures will be the standard of society.
Posted by Philo, Friday, 18 August 2006 9:52:14 AM
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