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Israel and the land : Comments

By Babu Ranganathan, published 3/8/2006

A biblical perspective: Zionism is fuelling the building and expansion of illegal Israeli settlements on Arab land.

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Jews did not take the land allocated to it by the UN resolution. The land was bought by a number of Jews who worked hard to restore it to productivity. Not all the Arab popultation agreed with their right to purchase but it was legal.

Israel did occupy land to secure security after a war initiated by hostile nations. The most hostile of all at the time Egypt after losing the war and replacing the dicator Nasser has made peace with Israel their land was returned and this peace has been honoured by both sides. This demonstrates the trustworthyness of Israel.

The bit about the Kzars is nonsense. DNA analasys has shown it not to be true. it was only ever a hair brained theory anyway. There is a Middle Eastern DNA amongst most Ashkenazi Jews but this is irrelevent to this issue anyway.

And around half of the Israeli Jews are Sephardic (Middle Eastern).

Still never let facts get in the way of a good story.

The Forum should not be a place for Mickey Mouse Articles like this.
Posted by logic, Thursday, 3 August 2006 1:21:24 PM
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Two points
There is no supernatural being doing any land giving.
The religious nutters on all three sides keep this going and the rest are caught in the middle.
Posted by Kenny, Thursday, 3 August 2006 1:36:26 PM
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To all the Israeli mouthpieces and I see most have arrived with one notable exception. Where are you Inshallah 2bob?

This piece suggests the solution to the mid east calamity.

The proof is there for all to see.

Egypt and Jordan. Israel returned to it's pre '67 borders in both cases and peace treaties were signed. Neither Jordan nor Egypt have any beligerence towards nor attack Israel. (Even though Jordan relinquished claims to the West Bank that territory was put aside by the UN for the Palestinian state in the same Declaration which saw the creation of Israel). Previously like the Israelis they both wished the destruction and removal of people from their midst. The leaders of all three countries clearly stated these aims. Israel like Lebanon, Syria and the Palestinians has never recanted those leaders statements. Today Israel occupies Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian Land. And where is the violence...Lebanon and Palestine and if the Israeli's have their way in the current escallation, Syria will enter the strife.

Since violence from both sides over the last 56 years has resulted in just more violence and since where clearly defined borders have in fact resulted in peaceful co-existance...why wouldn't the author's view prevail?

Besides repeating the same solution to the same problem which creates the same results is a sure sign of deraingement...not only of the participants but also of those who support such repetitive failures.

Time to try something new, boys and girls.
Posted by keith, Thursday, 3 August 2006 4:30:23 PM
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if god promise land for israel, why god did'nt put they all in heaven before. I think it can make earth in peace, no children and women killed.
Posted by peacemaker, Thursday, 3 August 2006 5:38:27 PM
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A timely article and some measured responses so far.

"...repeating the same solution to the same problem which creates the same results is a sure sign of derangement...not only of the participants but also of those who support such repetitive failures."

Well said, Keith & Kenny; together you pretty much sum it up.

Coach - 'end time' is something only nutters believe.
Leigh - we've tried everything else. "Time to try something new, boys and girls."
Posted by bennie, Thursday, 3 August 2006 7:45:21 PM
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Despite the claims of terrorist organizations, Israel's current two-front war is not just about land. After all, Hezbollah and Hamas fired rockets from Lebanon and Gaza well after Israel had withdrawn from both places.

Indeed, if sacred Arab ground were the driving force of the Middle East crisis, then surely Syria itself would now be willing to risk a shooting war over the all important Israeli-occupied Golan Heights. Meanwhile, Cairo is still perhaps the nexus of virulent Arab anti-Semitism, even though Israel finished handing over Sinai to Egypt in 1982.

The world prayed that after the unilateral departure of Israel from Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005, and the recent elections in Beirut and the West Bank, it was witnessing an incremental evolution toward a lasting peace between rational democratic states.

Gradually, Israel was returning to its 1967 borders. In response, gradually, it was hoped, Israel's Arab neighbors would vote into office reasonable statesmen who would renounce terror and get on with the business of crafting workable economies and governments. But all that optimism presupposed a radical change in the Middle Eastern mentality. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened.

So, if the most recent war in Lebanon and Gaza is not about land per se, then whence arises the elemental desire to destroy Israel?

The answer boils down to Islamists feeling their reputation is at stake. Words like "honor" and "pride" are evoked — in the sense that they need to be regained — by every insecure radical in the Islamic world, from al-Qaida's Osama bin Laden to Hezbollah's Hassan Nasrallah and Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Fist-shaking crowds, fiery mullahs and terrorists all boast of not giving an inch to infidels, and of the restoration of the now sullied honor of the Islamic people.

Why their hurt?

For about the last half-century, globalization has passed most of the recalcitrant Middle East by — economically, socially and politically. The result is that there are now few inventions and little science emanating from the Islamic world — but a great deal of poverty, tyranny and violence. And rather than make the necessary structural changes
Posted by Martin Ibn Warriq, Thursday, 3 August 2006 7:51:13 PM
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