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Gaza beach - when politics trumps human rights : Comments

By Gerald Steinberg, published 23/6/2006

NGOs have the power to influence public opinion and their credibility rarely gets questioned.

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From Hadith Muslim

Spoken to the Jews of Hijaz by Mohamed founder of Islam
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/019.smt.html

Book 019, Number 4363:
"- He (Mohamed) said to them (Jews of Hijaz) (the same words) the third time (and on getting the same reply) he added: You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I wish that I should expel you from this land Those of you who have any property with them should sell it, otherwise they should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle (and they may have to go away leaving everything behind)."

2006 a message from Israel to Gaza.

Oh inhabitants of Gaza....we stand at your gates. We give you this choice. Embrace G-D, and the one true faith which is from Him. Turn away from your idolatry and blind obedience to him who has led you astray (Mohamed).
If you embrace the One true G-D and His one true faith, you and your property will be safe.
If you do not, then sell your property, or you might have to abandon it all and flee, never to return. Know this, the earth and all that is in it belongs to G-D and his chosen people Israel.

COMMENT. Now, of course there is no such explicit message from the Israelis, but in a way it is implicit. The above is simply a 'mirror' reflecting the actions of Mohamed back at him. They would simply be enacting the same scenario that they themselves experienced at the hands of Mohamed when he ethno/religiously cleansed Arabia of Jews/Judaism many years ago.
Except...today the Jews have the firepower, the Muslims do not.
The only thing the Israeli's lack is the will power to finish the job.

JUDGEMENT.... "Good for Mohamed/Islam, good for Israel/Judaism"

I call on Israel to stand at the border of GAZA and proclaim all the murderous, genocidal,ethnic cleansing, crimes of history perpetrated by Mohamed, and declare forthwith 'Judgement' on them in the same terms as was given to them as outlined above for the Jews of Hijaz.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 29 June 2006 6:41:50 AM
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Red, he's ALL yours.
Posted by Strewth, Thursday, 29 June 2006 7:54:52 AM
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Aw shucks, Strewth, is that all the gratitude I get for helping you and showing you the error of your ways? You must be a Palestinian.

Well, I know that this is not really a debate site, it is an opinion site, but the best way to write a good opinion piece is to write something showing cause and effect. You can't get aay with just coming on here with a conviction that you are totally right and argue your case with little more than a bad attitude. The guys here are too smart for that. They will eat you.

OK, so David is tossing quotes from a Muslim scholar's book which shows you how nasty Mohammed was. If you want to return the complement, dig out your old Bible (I chucked mine away years ago) and find the bit around EXODUS where it says something like "And God commanded Moses to attack the Caananites and slaughter every man, woman and child. And God commanded Moses that the beasts of their fields must be slaughtered also."

Nice God, huh?

I wonder what Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch would make of David's God.

Although, I am a bit worried that you may be a devil dodger yourself because of your name. "Strewth", is an old English word that literally means "God's truth."
Posted by redneck, Thursday, 29 June 2006 6:20:58 PM
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Gee willikins, red, you're STILL banging on about how to write an "opinion piece" (down from your original "QUALITY submission") without it seems coming up with one yourself. Do you really have ANY opinion pieces for us "smart guys" or is it a case of 'If you can't, teach'? Bamboozled's got them coming out of his ears, but what about you? If Bamboozled's more frenetic topics don't appeal, maybe I can come up with some for you:

Write an "opinion piece/QUALITY submission" on either:

a)Zionism & Christian Zionism: A marriage made in heaven

OR

b)Zionism & Christian Zionism: The love that dare not speak its name.

OR

c)Bamboozled: My part in his Divine Plan.
Posted by Strewth, Thursday, 29 June 2006 10:08:50 PM
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Well, ya see, Strewthie, I am concerned about the abysmal quality of many of the submissions on OLO. I decided to give you a hand because your own efforts are probably the worst I have seen. I figured if anybody needed a bit of guidance, it was you.

I would point out that almost every submission on this subject has gone right off-topic. That is because most people do not have an opinion either way as to whether Gerald Steinberg is correct in his analysis or not. So this forum has simply reverted to a topic voicing pro or anti Israeli sentiments.

But if you want me to give an opinion on that, I will. I am 100% for the Israelis. The reason being is that I am a racist and I don't like Muslims or Arabs, while I admire the Jews. If the Arabs won't leave the Israelis alone, then I really don't care if the Israelis shoot back. And as far as I am concerned, the Israelis can throw their whole inventory at the useless no-hopers.

As to whether the explosion on Gaza beach was caused by a 155mm artillery shell, I would point out that such a weapon is a very odd choice for an assassination weapon. Atmospheric conditions at the shells apogee are impossible to predict, and that is why artillery forward observers always have their batteries fire "ranging shells" first in order to "walk" artilley rounds onto a target.

If some Israeli Forward Observation Observer managed to splatter some terrorist and his family from 10 kilometres away, with just one round of 155mm HE, it would have to go down as the best artilley shot in history.

Still, the Jews have a reputation for producing geniuses, which most definitely does not apply to the Arabs. So it is possible that such a feat is not beyond them.
Posted by redneck, Friday, 30 June 2006 5:25:28 AM
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There, there, red, doesn't that feel better now that you're finally out of the closet? A proud, strutting, Arab-hating, Islamophobic racist Likudnik. Why are we not surprised? All that posturing and claptrap about "QUALITY submissions" - such a waste of time. Now, let's get down to more practical matters. When you've finished singing Israel uber alles, I might suggest that, in light of your concern about the "abysmal quality" of "OLO submissions", you might find greener pastures with the volk over at Little Green Footballs. If, on the other hand, you're going to continue to grace us with your presence, might I engage you further on the subject of the on-topic Palestinian untermenschen of Gaza? Bamboozled's recipe for a Final Solution, smoting them hip and thigh, is a little dated, no? Well, what's your Final Solution? Should your Israeli ubermenschen rebadge Gaza as Auschwitz-by-the-sea and wheel in the gas chambers? Or should they simply declare it the Gaza Ghetto and pound it to rubble?
Posted by Strewth, Friday, 30 June 2006 9:02:38 AM
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