So dee, you support the banning of Korans?

Irf - re banning the koran.

On the contrary, I think the koran should be studied publically by Arabic speaking (not necessarily Muslim) scholars. I would certainly like a learned explanation of all those verses recommending that 'infidels' like myself be persecuted, converted by force or murdered. So far we have had mealy-mouthed 'translations' by people with a vested interest (eg, 'jihad' is a spiritual concept only). Lets have a real translation. People should also be made aware of the Muslim belief that the koran cannot be changed, since it came directly from Allah via his prophet Mohammed. According to the koran, those who hate me and wish me dead are 'good Muslims'.

A debate on Islam in the public domain would be a good thing. Muslims could explain to us the meaning of 'taqiyya', a concept completely foreign to Christians, whose holy books tell them that lying is unacceptable under any circumstances.

I am not generally in favour of banning anything because it usually achieves nothing. Even the vile, ignorant hate literature sold in some Islamic bookshops gives us valuable information about those who hate us.

I have answered your question, perhaps you can now respond to mine.

“Abu Musab al-Zarqawi deserves to be cut into pieces because he hurt, killed the people and slaughtered the Muslims”.

True. But there is no compassion here (or anywhere in the Islamic world) for anyone but Muslims. Please explain.

Banning the Qur'an will not eliminate the terrorist problem. Since most good muslims are encouraged to memorise the whole book without a second thought about its meaning anyway.

By banning the Qur'an - which is primarily the terrorist's manual by excellence - it would only give it more religious substance than it actually deserves.

Instead may I suggest that the "holy" book be made compulsory reading for all our federal politicians - who I suspect have never done so - and then let's see if they still believe it has a place in our society. Let's put our elected to the test.

If they are still unsure that the book is not a direct threat to our democracy and freedoms - they should call a referendum.

Until the Qur'an is publicly scrutinised - like the bible has - it will remain a godly-inspired book in the mind of the uninformed general public - especially muslims who never dare to question its origins or teachings.

Let’s do everyone a favour – what have you got to hide Irfan? Put your book where your mouth is. Let’s ask Australians if the book should be freely available after they all read it.

Many westerners think it is cool to kill people as long as you just press the tombols in your bomber cabin while listening pop music but its cruel to kill with knifes or any other primitive tools.

However I wont blame Christianity. Its really good to wash one's sins though not to prevent it. Islam is much better for humanity, as long as people follow the spiritual teaching of Muhammad, not literal Arab-biased interpretations on it.

Christianity is far from perfect either. Last week, Russian and Polish authorities, side-by-side with neo-NAZIs, were arm in arm with Roman Catholic Priests. In Poland they storm trooped, burned down, and violently attacked the bohemian centre of Warsaw. The Polish Greens office was burned down. Night clubs were burned down. Then the Catholic priests and neo-nazis shared banners with hate slogans against socialists and homosexuals. Then they started bashing homosexuals, some killed a few, and the priests just watched in amusement. Then they did the same thing again in Russia. Standing right behind them was the Pope, the one who was Hilter's youth.

The neo-NAZIs and their catholic priest friends, their Government thugs only have one description. Terrorist! When will the US bomb the Vatican? I mean, this was an act of terrorism, c'mon, what is this war? Is this a war against terrorism, or a war against Islam, make up your mind! Who or what exactly is the war against?

Then they have the gall to critisise Islam. Who would Jesus bomb? How many poofs would Jesus bash? When would Jesus join Hitler's Youth because everyone else did? Would Jesus tell everyone to kill the Islams? I mean, the bible is not exactly a nice and peaceful pretty book either. In the Jesus movement, they didn't mince their words, the churches do this for us. The church is far from innocent in comparison to Islam. Lest we forgot the holocaust and that digusting NAZI imposter imposing as the pope: the son of God, no less. As such, how dare Catholics excuse themselves with: "he is only human" then say "he represents God".

Shame on the Vatican. They betrayed the Jews too in WWII under Pope Pius who worked with Hitler frequently. They haven't changed at all, nor have they said sorry.

saintfletcher,

You have some valid points there - muddled up but honest.

The pope is not the son of God - only Jesus Christ is. The popes see themselves as the direct line to the apostle Peter who the catholic religion believes was the stone on which God Jesus founded His church...only Jesus is the stone and the head of the church - no middle man is needed... but that's for another thread...

Have you heard of the reformation?

Christianity in my opinion should not be confused with organised religion. Christians have an intimate relationship with God and don't need a priest or pope to manage their lives.

In view of your opinions, would you support the banning of the bible too? Please refer to my previous post.