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Defining David Hicks : Comments

By Neil James, published 9/6/2006

Releasing David Hicks is not as easy and straightforward as it seems.

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Until fairly recently a person in Australia was innocent until proven guilty. This system of justice has been one of the main differences between a dictatorship and a democracy.

Remember that David Hicks has not been tried, and has not been found guilty, so why speculate on what he may or may not have done?
If there is evidence to prove his guilt why after four years has he not been tried?
Hundreds have been released from Gitmo because there was no evidence to convict them, and they have received no compensation.

When the richest democracy in the world resorts to imprisoning people without trial what sort of message does this send to the rest of the world?
Posted by Peace, Monday, 26 June 2006 11:36:35 AM
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To Mr Peace.

Captured enemy combatants do not need to be tried for anything. They can simply be incarcerated until hostilities are over. Australia had a very large system of POW camps in Cowra NSW, where German, Italian and Jap prisoners were held during WW2. The USA has just as much right to hold Taliban and Al Qaida prisoners until hostilities are over in the War on Terror.

Davis Hicks was a member of an armed force that was engaged in hostilities against an Allied Army, which included Australian troops. That he was not captured by Australian Army forces is only a matter of circumstance. Such an action is a clear a case of Treason as can be imagined. Why he has not been charged with Treason is a matter far more important to me than his incarceration without charge. But if our government can not charge him because our laws have become so corrupted by political correctness, then I could not care less how long the yanks jail him. I am interested in justice, not a law that does not even recognise what is clearly criminal behaviour.

That good men have routinely ignored inconvenient laws on behalf of what they knew was best has historical precedent. Abraham Lincoln broke the US Constitution by declaring war on the Confederate South. When his own Attorney General pointed this out, Lincoln threatened to jail him. Lincoln also illegally suspended habeas corpus in order to jail his critics. Oliver Cromwell ignored the “Self Denying Ordinance” that prevented MP’s from leading armies in the field. Just as well, or Charles 1 would have won. Charles 1 was executed for “Treason”, which he himself pointed out at his trial was illogical, since Treason was defined in English law as “ hostilities against the King.” But they chopped his head off anyway, and laid the foundations of democracy throughout he world.

It's time to chop Hick's head off to defend the democracy we hold so dear.
Posted by redneck, Monday, 26 June 2006 4:55:43 PM
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Why does the media persist in calling him David Hicks? Why don't they respect his Islamic conversion and refer to him as Muhammad Dawood? It's the name has chosen for himself, so shouldn't the media abide by his wishes?
Posted by Kvasir, Monday, 26 June 2006 6:41:32 PM
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Redneck,
Big gun, small equipment?

Some of us prefer to hunt with bow & arrow. There's nothing like slitting a feral pig's throat and watching it's eyes glaze over while it twitches it's last.

A pity the pig doesn't get a trial either but it had it coming because it was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I see you are from the "Kill 'em all -let God sort 'em out" school of justice.
Posted by rache, Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:30:40 AM
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Finally sanity has prevailed and the UK has decided to let David Hicks stay and face the music in the US military court.
Posted by Sniggid, Tuesday, 27 June 2006 11:43:36 AM
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Kvasir - Hicks is longer a Muslim - if he ever was. According to fellow inmates who have been released, he did not behave like a Muslim - didnt fast at Ramadan or pray or any of the things Muslims are supposed to do.

He probably ate pig as well (maybe Rache's eye-glazed porker).

No doubt a fatwa for apostasy will be slapped on him in due course.
Posted by dee, Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:07:43 PM
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