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Moral outrage : Comments

By Barbara Biggs, published 22/5/2006

For Indigenous people once more it will be our white boots of moral outrage trampling them into the mud.

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Sometimes yes u do have to lock people up. Other times help them in many different ways. AKA and the other name u invented i can always tell when somebody has another agenda.Yep blocks of land for a dollar through joint council and government programes along with building materials and investors from overeas to get little towns on the map, safe houses for women and kids and share farms for just about anything u can think of and tourism.

No I dont even draw a wage for my project work as my pashion is helping animals aged people and aboriginals. The aboriginals will be paid AKA. However since you dont think anybody should make a living I take it that u will work 7 days a week for free as I do to help your people .
Is That right.?
Anybody who has a better idea on getting jobs for regional ares please just do it as I am. Oh and by the way nobody pays our office outgoings which come out of my pocket. The only problem we have is we cant find any aboriginal people willing to work for free like us but I am sure they are out there. Funny about that isnt it.This post is not about imagration .
Posted by Wendy Lewthwaite, Thursday, 25 May 2006 2:28:33 AM
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AKA
Thanks for the revealing link and I often go to links firstly to disprove what they are trying to prove, but reading only a little part is as you say disturbing , because you failed to advise that she was 5 when she was removed - and only 14 when she had been whipped and raped constantly. The family that perpetrated this shame should be outed and their reputations shredded.

I also read (Page 130.) that during the period 1993-1998 of the 76 murders in Queensland, 26 victims(34.2%) and 36 (47.3%) [love those statistics] OFFENDERS were A.T.S.I. I feel that this is disproportionately high - and there is no way this attitude can be blamed onto anyone else except their own attitudes - this is about 10 times more than the rest of the population. If you take a look at the data on page 132 with comments on page 133, it is obvious that many parents do not give a damn and exercise no control – maybe they are the rapists and the ones who are committing the unreported cases of incest

On page 137 sexual abuse of young girl rates between 70% and 80% - but incest was a high 50% - while Judges and senior Barristers seem to accept that as a norm, rather than take any action like some severe jail time for the offenders as would happen in society down south – WHY??

Are they afraid of more suicide deaths in custody because they are locked away from their victims? What were the suicide victims in custody for in the first instance? – I see not data on them and people do not want to mention the dead as a sign of respect – if they raped, then their memory needs no respect – if they have raped their daughters, they deserve even less respect – only condemnation!

There are just too many footnotes to be able to go through and do any justice to a reply here, but in short, how can you expect any recommendations to be of any effect
Posted by Kekenidika, Thursday, 25 May 2006 11:49:21 AM
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Wendy,
I am sorry to inform you that I do not use any other alias. Your instincts have let you down this time.

I use Aka, as that means Grandmother. I am a very proud grandmother.

I do NOT use AKA as that stands for Also Known As.

Surprisingly, many Aboriginal people do work for free, just look at the CDEP figures.

I have not commented on your other interests on this thread.

If you are interested in helping Aboriginal people, then I suggest that you read the report, links above, and maybe even search for the WA one by Sue Gordon (I think).

It would be good to see you better informed.

Rather than insist on punitive and coercive paternalist solutions, I suggest you become more informed.

I suggest that if you are prepared to walk and work alongside Aboriginal people,you would be welcome
Posted by Aka, Thursday, 25 May 2006 11:52:00 AM
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I have no need to prove anything to anyone, I prefer to back away should the occasion be there, as my training is structured, that I cannot attack – I do not pre-emptively defend, I just defend myself.

I personally have been attacked on more than one occasion, none were reported because unfortunately for them I do not drink and I just left them on the ground – but unfortunately not many people can defend themselves against a pack of drunks.

I note without surprise on page 141-144 of this report, that (and I am sorry to be selective)
“Injuries play a major role in Indigenous morbidity and mortality. Moller et al. (1996)
reported that Indigenous peoples of all ages had a much higher rate of hospitalisation as a
result of interpersonal violence (1388 per 100,000) than do the non-Indigenous population (81 per 100,000).” – “The issue of violence is of critical concern to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.”

….” many are already into a cycle of grog, drugs and substance abuse. Young girls as young as 12 and 13 are selling themselves in exchange for some of the aforementioned. A number of teenagers are pregnant at this time; the youngest is 14 years. Family life is disintegrating. Grandmothers are often burdened with looking after grandchildren and greatgrandchildren. Many children would never attend school for five days running. Something is drastically wrong with the education, especially in the high school. We will have a community of illiterates in a few years time unless the situation is addressed. An effort is being made to introduce some youngsters to corroboree but many others show no interest. A very wise Aboriginal man said in recent times:‘ The old people have closed their mouths and the young people have closed their ears.’
(ABRIDGED)

Obviously throwing money at it is a cop out, force to make them change and send in the army is an Indonesian solution - shoot the bloody lot until they are peaceful.

Maybe the ideas of Wendy Lewthwaite need a closer scrutiny – leave her boots out of the equation.
Posted by Kekenidika, Thursday, 25 May 2006 2:01:45 PM
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Kekenidika,
thank you for taking the time to read, and think about this report.

I would encourage people to read it, as it is not a cop out but very honest report carrying the voice of the women [and men] who want the violence to stop.

I wear thongs on my feet most of the time, but if you want to walk alongside Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders in their fight against violence - then I don't think anyone will notice what you have on your feet :)

Kekenidika
I admire your tenacity and open mind.
Warm regards
Posted by Aka, Thursday, 25 May 2006 3:10:43 PM
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Whatever town,community,or area you name where indigenous people live is the same all over.
Drunks,dole bludgers,boredom,filth,crime, petrol and glue sniffing ,sexual abuse from babies to teens ,no morals or guidance.

Whites making a fortune from selling alcohol to all of them and woman bashing common in the past 50 years,killing,sex diseases in kids and regular deaths from Mornington,Qld , to Darwin,Broome,Fitzroy Crossing,Hall's Creek,Carnarvon,Geraldton,Burunga NT etc.

Alcohol free communities 100 kms away froma pub,but taxis (Paid for by taxpayers) deliver the grog outside the communes where they get drunk then go home to beat up the missus and kids.

Sexual penetration to kids was recorded 50-60 yrs ago in communities around Kalgoorlie and Laverton seen by white prospectors as Aboriginal men digitally stretched little girls vaginas when questioned said "We get them ready for marriage one day",still goes on.
The only hope is to stop tribal laws in Oz and bring Christian Aboriginal eledrs into preach love and Jesus .
About 18 years ago "60 Minutes", had a programme on announcing a break through with Aboriginal People going dry in Halls' Creek by the hundreds when Brother Max Wiltshire preached Jesus Christ and forgiveness and love to them,
There was a revival of Christianity,sanity,and peace came on that town.
So let's pray for that again.
Posted by dobbadan, Thursday, 25 May 2006 10:57:15 PM
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