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Moral outrage : Comments

By Barbara Biggs, published 22/5/2006

For Indigenous people once more it will be our white boots of moral outrage trampling them into the mud.

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FightDemBack are just like Dem. Don't worry I'm on topic just taking a dig at another lot of hypocrites.

Funny when white middle-class priests and private school kiddie fiddlers were being flushed out there was no talk of taking the children away. No talk of closing down the schools and sending kids to public schools, which are more accountable and more transparent. Little moral outrage from the church - none from the "white boots" brigade.

The word on the street is that all the extra funding to the churches and schools counter balanced the compensation claims and legal fees. I other words tax payers indirectly funded the predators.

No we're not racist-just crazy. (Real anti-racists).
Posted by rancitas, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 9:55:54 AM
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This article is typical of someone who lives in la la land. It is obvious the early missionaries had it right when they wanted the best for the aboriginal children. The author lives in la la land. Her article is typical of someone who sometimes 'visits' communities believing that these people can work out their own problems. I personally work reguraly with indigeneous men and woman. Wake up to the fact that even the aboriginal woman can't resolve this issue. Whether white or black child abuse needs to be treated as a great crime.

After 30 years of Governments throwing money at the problem with the fear of being labelled racist the problem is as bad now as it was before white settlement. Maybe we knee a knee jerk re action instead of another study to try and take away the blame of those committing these crimes.

The much maligned Andrew Bolt seems to make more sense than those racists who refuse to protect children in order to prove some erroneous theory that the whites are to blame for the problems.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:19:28 AM
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The Alchemist rejects pilot projects because they do nothing but provide money and jobs for unworthy bureaucrats but my suggestion of pilot projects merely emphasised the need for those with the money and power but no real clues about what might work to start with small carefully researched programs.

The Alchemist then says two things:

1. Aborigines had "a very old and stable culture thats been bastardised by religion, decimated by commercial interests, (grog, junk food and tobacco sellers, mining and grazing)" which soundslike saying that modern Aborigines, when still living as a group, no longer have a stable culture and don't have one that anyone could rely on to help them - or, particularly, their children - cope with modern life.

2. "No inquiry, pilot program or more money will help, money doesn't solve cultural and social issues. Its compassion, understanding and worthwhile long term development of situations, that encourage the indigenous to evolve their culture and become part of society at a rate that allows adaptation, not assimilation." !! How that can mean anything when put beside quote 1. I cannot understand. Equally if put against the facts of "their culture" now being the appalling level of criminality, sexual abuse, lack of education and skills and total demoralisation to be found in so many communities where Aborigines' culture is the dominant one (and who can say that there is now one culture as The Alchemist implies, unless it be total depravity of a level so low that no community can be lower than another).

If you insist on resisting assimilation to modernity via boarding schools (compare the English-speaking boarding schools in India almost entirely now run by Indians for Indians if you don't like the image of an old-fashioned Mission school)kindly give a realistic picture of how Aboriginal culture, 2006 version, could evolve and travel the path to showing non-assimilated Aborigines how to live an economically viable existence, enjoying vigorous good health, education to a high level and self-respect as any white person not born to drunken druggy underclass parents can reasonably expect or aspire to.
Posted by TBG, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:38:02 AM
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Wendy Lewthwaite – you must be an interesting person to dictate penalising the victims.

Wow you must be pretty special to want everyone to be converted to be in your image – just like 'us'.

Who exactly is it you mean when you say ‘us’?

I doubt that I am like you.

You are talking from the past white Australia/assimilation policy. It was proven to be a dud as it caused more problems.

Rather than suggesting that the Dream time is over I suggest that you get back in your bed and go back to sleep.

Oh you might want to take off your white boots so the mud on them doesn’t dirty your sheets.

TBG
Your comments are poorly thought out and offensive. I suggest you inform yourself about the stolen generations, the white Australia policy etc before you comment.

The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Women’s Taskforce on Violence Report (Qld 2000) demonstrates that the state does not protect Indigenous children either.

One woman, who was about 40 in 1999, tells of how she was made to work for a farmer who sexually enslaved her. The farmer tied her up under the house like a dog and beat her terribly. The farmers wife did nothing. The abuse only stopped when the farmer died.

Figure out the dates and think - What were you doing and what was your life like at this time?

All Australians have to work to address the issues of child abuse and challenge the environment in which it festers.
Posted by Aka, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:06:15 AM
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TBG,

I must agree with Aka. Your ideas will just create another "Stolen Generation", and perhaps even another avenue for abuse. You wouldn't remove a middle-class Anglo-Celtic child from their family because an uncle/aunt or teacher/priest abused them.

As has been pointed out, this is not necessarily just an indigenous issue but a general issue, but unlike the general community, cannot be dealt with through the criminal justice system. Just the idea that it must be dealt with in a different way infers 'racism'...
Posted by Narcissist, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 1:30:37 PM
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Aka.....
"The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Women’s Taskforce on Violence Report (Qld 2000) demonstrates that the state does not protect Indigenous children either.

One woman, who was about 40 in 1999, tells of how she was made to work for a farmer who sexually enslaved her. The farmer tied her up under the house like a dog and beat her terribly. The farmers wife did nothing. The abuse only stopped when the farmer died......."

I am not saying you are not telling the truth - but hearsay is still only hearsay and innuendo - provide a link to this accusation please - or have you just taken some journalistic license
Posted by Kekenidika, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 2:04:22 PM
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