Kekenidika,

I am not real good at the link thing but I am sure you will be able to copy this link.

A copy of the report should be in Qld libraries and would probably be able to be ordered in other states. The only thing is that it is a read there book.

The incident I refer to is on Page 75-76. The link is to a pdf so I presume that the pages will be the same.

http://www.datsip.qld.gov.au/resources/publications.cfm

AHHH Wendy,
now I get the picture, you have plans that involve yourself leading Indigenous Australians back from the wilderness. for a fee no doubt.

Giving them land - now that is a novel idea - will it be their traditional land?

You are happy with the demise of ATSIC - but using the same criterea used to justify it, the defence force and AWB would have been shut down.

Wendy from your brief outline of your life - I know that I am not like you. Please do not include me in your grandious statement 'us'.

Like I suggested earlier, back in your bed, maybe with a downloaded copy of the report (link above), but wipe the dung off your white boots first.

AKA and Narcissist: before criticising please read carefully and switch the brain on for a while. You refer to the "Stolen Generation" ** as though it had something to do with what I said. Though what you said was vague I presume you objected to my favouring a good modern education in boarding schools).

**Also, AKA, to the White Australia policy. Totally irrelevant and I bet I know a lot more about it than you do.

Who said anything about "stealing" or imposing anything on any sane non-criminal adult (especially mothers). Like Archbishop Barry Hickey talking on Late Line last night about boarding schools for Aboriginal children I specifically referred to ways of including the parents or guardians (particularly mothers). If you claim to know anything about Aboriginal life in those desperate outstations (and other depressed communities too)do you really believe that mothers wouldn't be delighted to send their children to a campus where they got good education and diet and sport - and where there were cottages for family to come and stay at least periodically? As a member of a family in which three generations went happily to boarding schools I know that some parents resist the idea and some children don't like it, but, for the most part, it works well. Given the alternative in this case, is it a moral alternative to sit an stew?

And Narissist: I would recommend exactly the same for any underclass community of any ethnic description. And, though you failed to notice that I wasn't recommending coercion, I would recommend coercive removal of children of white middle-class parents who couldn't protect their children. That's what welfare departments do, although one has to be sceptical about the reliability of their judgments - that is the uncertainty of life and human nature.

You say of child abuse "Just the idea [sic] that it must be dealt with in a different way infers [sic: I think you mean <implies>] 'racism'... " Since the "idea" is entirely yours should I infer that you are whatever you mean by that tendentiously but sloppily overused word "racist"?

AKA,

The link you provided does not lead to any 2000 reports - omly latter dates - and the only .PDF link there was Queensland Government response Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Women's Task Force on Violence Report PDF (680 KB) ....http://www.datsip.qld.gov.au/pdf/thefirststep.pdf. - this did not lead to your provided pasting.

Again if you wish to further your cause, you must provide an accurate link - all you have to do is go back to where you saw tha page (even in a .PDF format) copy that link and post it.

As for your somewhat cutting remarks as to Wendy's post, you are somewhat misguided and your remarks not only baseless, but somewhat prejudiced. There is enough evidence that the Aboriginals were not the original people here in Australia, but also invaders and they killed off many of the originals inhabitants as well - no great shame in that as I would have no doubt that in those days, might was right and god as usual was on the side of the winners. It is also my information, that not to many Aboriginal peoples were farmers - but hunter gatherers - you can distinct between the two groups can you not...?

I, for another, am glad to see the demise of ATSIC - it was endemic with graft corruption and power players, and the top end was riddled with thieves and crooks, who like any politician did not give a rats arse about the common people - except when it came time for elections and handouts.ANd yes - that goes for the AWB as well, who needed the COLE inquiry to tell them the difference between the Chaff and the trucking fees.

As for Wendy, I do not know her - I am not even certain if I would even like her personally - but sure as hell I would rather sit at a table and hear her propositions - and be certain I would not get a knife in the back like many others here would.

This whole issue is shameful. There are people living in other countries with no homes, no welfare system, and no medical. They work really hard to look after their family (no government handouts). They live clean and tidy, they grow vegetables and have chickens. What is wrong with Australians, why have we got this gift mentality that we don't have to try. We expect everything to be handed out and blame everyone when something goes wrong.
These people are bored. They need to work, they need a purpose. They need to take better care of their homes, their health and their families.

Kekenidika
I just clicked onto the link http://www.datsip.qld.gov.au/resources/publications.cfm I scrolled down and the report is “Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Women's Task Force on Violence Report” and it is immediately above the Qld govt response.

Try this one though http://www.datsip.qld.gov.au/pdf/taskforce.pdf it should lead you straight to it.

I am pleased that you are prepared to look for the reference, and I encourage you to read the entire report.

Be warned though, this report is distressing. Even more distressing is that so few of the recommendations have been addressed.

As for Wendy, I am sure she is able to cope with people who dissagree with her.

I think the problems of Indigenous Australia are cause by double standards.No amount of money will fix that.When theres no equality in society,then people can do what ever they want.And so-call "mis-fits"immigrants or who ever, can't be blame either,only the men &women who commit crimes against the innocent can.

Lock them-up and turn the key like we do with everyone else Aboriginal,mix-race,black &white.People are to concern with protecting public images.