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Moral outrage : Comments

By Barbara Biggs, published 22/5/2006

For Indigenous people once more it will be our white boots of moral outrage trampling them into the mud.

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The latest report has several hundred men rioting in Wadeye and the removal of children and women at risk is being mooted.
Wouldn't it be more realistic if the rioters were removed ,then the children could get on with their schooling and the women would stay in their own homes?
The rioters could be kept away until they made up their minds to be peaceful and let back only when and if the elder women said so. Work programmes would need to be put in place, to maintain the property and to build new houses.
Does that sound workable?
Posted by mickijo, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 4:02:50 PM
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And after sexual abuse, the victim is primed for the ratchet up to the next level of abuse . From those children come the fodder for state sponsored prostitution. Fourteen is the average age for entry into prostitution and the sex industry. An industry inclusive of child pornography, prostitution, paedophilia and other sick forms of human abuse. Women desperately need to capture the agenda on this issue. The solution is only in their hands.
A fact proved in Sweden by changes to the laws of prostitution making the offence of soliciting legal, and the purchasing of women for sex illegal. That one move sent the brothel industry scurrying. This simple move was achieved in that country by women claiming the political agenda and now women in parliament constitute half of the elected government. That achievement has given women a meaningful voice on such social issues. Thank you Barbara for showing care towards abused children.
Posted by diver dan, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 4:49:19 PM
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This article reads like the usual bleating whines of a professional apologist.

To be honest the best advert for resuming the historic practices which resulted in the “stolen generation” is the patent and chronic inability of these people to care and nurture their own children.

Better “stolen” than left to be broken and betrayed by an abusive parent.

Anyone who suggests that these abuses be left to be dealt with by “tribal and customary law” would likely condone cannibalism as quaint and traditional custom.

If Australia is to be seen as one nation and not two, we need to assert the full measure of the prevailing laws of this one nation instead of mincing around with the demented notion that “tradition and custom” can somehow excuse the evidence of a litany of child abuse. whilst "white mans law" might put some aboriginals under "duress" it is clear that the "duress" faced by children under "black mans law" is far graver, damaging and lethal.
Posted by Col Rouge, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 5:11:27 PM
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AKA your wrong I am a third generation farmer. Lived with aboriginal people worked with them and my dad was an old bullock team driver so i dont have white shoes.
We are all the same was my point. The only thing wrong with aboriginal people is that they delude themselves by not holding the aboriginal leaders responsible for blowing millions over the years which was meant for them
they need to look in the white pages under Australia and find jobs wherever those jobs are.
Its called having a go and not expecting something for nothing[just because they are aboriginal]
Likewise we should give each family a block of land or farm and help set them up in herbs vegetables farming of all sorts.

Thats what they really need
Posted by Wendy Lewthwaite, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 6:41:26 PM
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Interesting article followed by many predictable postings. Lock em all up they say, that will fix em. Well, plainly, no it won’t.

How many times must people like Leigh and ‘mickijo’ be shown statistics showing that incarceration does nothing but increase criminality in the community? It increases the likelihood of reoffending, creates fatherless children, and the problems precipitate. Any crime statistics freely available on the net illustrate my point.

I think the suggestions of the author are constructive. And the government’s response, whilst unsurprising, have been ridiculous. Mal Brough is running around Australia carrying on like the government has just found out about these problems. HUH? It is this damn government that have allowed these problems to get worse, and could also be said to have actively contributed to the denigration of Indigenous Australians through their abolition of ATSIC and unrelenting stance on Native Title.

The problems will continue until well worked, coordinated, grass roots solutions are developed. Locking up the ‘rioters’ as mickijo says will not solve any problems, as the author cites – it will merely leave behind the next generation of rioters or abusers. For example, if you own a shop, and your front window is smashed and you get robbed, you don’t just lock up the robbers and leave it at that. You fix the damn window!

Having a politician visit or throwing $$ at the problem effectively will make it worse, but I bet any $$ it is what we’ll get from the Libs
Posted by jkenno, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 6:52:22 PM
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jkenno. The best Thing the Government ever did for aboriginal people was to get rid of ATSIC. Yes you are right we sure need to all get involved in helping the aboriginal people instead of this massive aid going to other countries. The best way to help them is to help them help themeslves by offering jobs and education.

Any constructive donations of progects from you and others would be a great help.
The government had a softly softly approach treating them as different to the rest of Australians which has made the problem much worse.
Now is the time for us to all work together to fix it .
Here is one of our progects to put jobs back into their soceity www.halakindmeats.com
Vegie farms free range cattle their own abattoirs their own herbs costemtics arts and crafts furniture fishing industry crab farms fish farms, tourism are a few things that need to be established in a hurry.
If the commericial world like Packers and Murdock the LeCourts who have property up their wanted to donate some building material and progects on one dollar blocks of land from the government that would be a big help.
I know a few builders that would donate some time for work progects so they can all take part in building their own homes. Its doable with everybody working together.
Posted by Wendy Lewthwaite, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 4:55:17 AM
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