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Musings on Easter : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 18/4/2006

If we want to be Christ-like, we should make time for the saints of our era, whomever they may be.

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"Then a few days ago, a prominent Sydney Muslim identity asked me if I could fill in for him" linking to kaysar trad.

Gawd ifran ... u do favors for this creep, let alone associate with him?

well keysar trad is a good muslim, as we can see in his writings here,

http://democracyfrontline.org/blog/?p=325

and the correct muslim attitude to gay people

http://worldwar111.blogspot.com/2006/02/keysar-at-uni-of-western-sydney-on.html

Gawd ifran ... u do favors for this creep, let alone associate with him? hey next time u see him remind him bigamy is illegal and we Aussies find it a vile practice, thanks...

Do you think Aussies should trust him or you by your association?

PS
Do we say "armchair nazis" at eastertime, or after.
Posted by meredith, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 12:03:27 AM
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It took me til half-way through the article to get what Irfan was saying. Being a Satanic Feminist and former enslaved christian female, I had to think very hard to remember the whole Easter, Jesus scenario. Ahh, washing of the feet, God serving man.

Isn't that what all religious conflict is about? Man using God to further his own bigoted, repressive agendas. I remember a Biblical quote that seems appropriate here, "You will know a man by his works." I'm sure I screwed that up. My meaning is this. The overwhelming picture of religious peoples of the world is one of war, and a cult of death. If the majority of the population of the world actually believes in God then God must love death and destruction. I don't see much peace and love. Just a bunch of humans mouthing the same old platitudes and behaving like barbarians.

Irfan I commend you on your desire to serve the Saints of the world. However, I'm a bit suspicious, after all you are a lawyer. In this country, if a lawyer is seen serving Saints he may be accused of being an ambulance chaser. I hope you were not trolling for potential clients.
Posted by Patty Jr. Satanic Feminist, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 1:58:05 AM
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Patty first..
I truly hope you can stand back from your situation and see how you are reacting to a very distorted experience of 'Christianity'.

The tone of Irfans article reflects the warmth and love which can be had in Christ, and I applaud his references to the centrality of Jesus and his demonstration of Servanthood as a mark of discipleship.

PK/Freethinker. Jesus very much 'recorded' his teaching: in the following ways.

Stories which cannot be forgotten (Parable of the sower, prodigal son and so many others) by repetition over 3 yrs, and by focusing on 12 men (which is the optimum learning unit by the way).

An experience of persecution of Christians by Muslims in Malaysia was related to me in 1980ish, in the actual village where it occurred- thats over 20 yrs ago. It is etched in stone in my memory, but most other events of that time are all hazy.

Irfan has shown something wonderful about Jesus, my prayer is that he will go the next step and come to know Jesus as 'The Christ' as his own Lord and Savior, rather than just ' a great man'.

Irf has also shown us something about people, and the hunger for righteousness in word and deed. Jesus said:

[37On the last and greatest day of the Feast, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, "If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. 38Whoever believes in me, as[c] the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him."

Rather than analyze the theology of Irfans piece, I urge readers to consider this Jesus, man ? yes, God ? indeed, manifest to us, renewing souls, forgiving sin, transforming hearts, minds and wills.

Lets all seek that 'living water' and allow it to flow through us to others, specially those in need.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 8:06:47 AM
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David, I find it interesting that you label my Christian experience distorted. If that is the case then you have your Christian brethren your thank. My experience is just that, my experience. I see a world filled with Christians who worship only on the Christian Holidays and promote their own good works as a way to make themselves look better.

As an example take our President Bush. He claims that God wanted him to be President. He claims to be a born again Christian. By saying to Iran, " the United States will use nuclear force to stop their nuclear technology," he is in essence saying to Iran "that if they were dying of thirst, he wouldn't give them the sweat off of his balls." Now that's the Christian attitude that permeates our world.

Where are your Christians? The ones who follow the teachings of Jesus? Why aren't they leading our world? If they were, I might come back to the fold. Until then, I don't need any man or God, to tell me how to be a decent human being. It's common sense. You show up, you honor your commitments. It's that simple.
Posted by Patty Jr. Satanic Feminist, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 9:08:46 AM
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Irfan, you don't define the term "saint" but suggest that they are thick on the ground. A better definition would be those the Buddha described as "stream-enterers" - those who have experienced Nibbana for the first time and are forever changed by the experience. More broadly, the characteristics of a saint include great wisdom, loving-kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy, equanimity and energy devoted to helping others, particularly in helping them to develop spiritually. Those who I have met who stand out are three great spiritual teachers, S N Goenka, J N Krishnmaurti and Ajahn Chah (of whom only Goenka is still alive).

Note the limits of compassion without wisdom. Wisdom, understanding, is necessary if efforts to help others are to be truly useful and effective rather than misdirected.
Posted by Faustino, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 10:11:25 AM
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Patty Jr. Satanic Feminist:

“I see a world filled with Christians who worship only on the Christian Holidays and promote their own good works as a way to make themselves look better.”

Strangely accurate. I believe that Irfan is a Muslim though. More to the point, are there any religious holidays that the man is yet to appropriate? We have Irfan’s Christmas message and now this for Easter.

Perhaps Irfan's Hanukkah words of peace and inspiration for the kuffar as they ease themselves into his all singing and all dancing version of Sharia light. That which he will no doubt return to the peddling of, soon.

Seriously, this man is a serial offender and it is odd that OLO still panders to him by posting this demented and deeply dishonest style of propaganda.
Posted by Mr.P.Pig, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 10:36:14 AM
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