@Horus:

LOL, I AM a Chinese-Indonesian, you fool. There are 12 million of us living in Indonesia. We are living freely with natives, often intermarrying with them. We are also generally more prosperous than the rest of the population.

@dee:

How dare you insult and slander the noble Aborigines as "child-abusers" and "wife-beaters". These Aborigines are better than you, because they never committed genocide on anyone, nor have they steal anybody's land!

"How dare you insult and slander the noble Aborigines as "child-abusers" and "wife-beaters". These Aborigines are better than you, because they never committed genocide on anyone, nor have they [sic] steal anybody's land!"

Then PTBI, you are living in a fairyland if you haven't heard about the high instances of abuse perpetrated by aborigines on their own children. Aborigines have also committed genocide against opposing tribes, long before any white people came along. Rules of law and order in tribal communities back then meant that aborigines could spear their troublemakers in the leg, even to the point where the troublemaker could bleed to death.

If you have even suggested seriously that aborigines have not tried to steal people's land, then I have something to shake some reality into you. Over a decade ago, a person by the name of Sam Watson wanted to claim the Central Business District of Brisbane. He rationalised that it really belonged to some tribe, and that they should take over the businesses that have been erected over the past 150 years. Needless to say, the tribal descendents concerned said that they didn't want to claim the CBD of Brisbane.

I am a little bit stunned that you claim to be Chinese-Indonesian, but also "proud to be Indonesian". I would have assumed that after the discrimination faced by ethnic Chinese in Indonesia, you would be known as "headed to China to get away from Indonesians". You have even claimed that white people in Australia aren't Australians, but transplanted Europeans. I would suggest that, despite ethnic Chinese being in Indonesia since the 14th century, the great majority of ethnic Chinese-Indonesians' ancestors only came to Indonesia in the 19th and 20th century. So, don't you crap on about white Australians not being Australians, if you can't even live by your own definition of national identity.

@PJT:

I see, you are slandering and dehumanising the Aborigines to justify your genocide and theft of land committed by whites against them. So sad :-(

LOL, Chinese-Indonesians mostly cannot even speak Chinese, much less "moving" to China. In fact, Indonesia has lots of illegal immigrants coming from China. My mother is native Indonesian while my dad is Chinese-Indonesian who was given citizenship by the benevolent Indonesian government shortly after independence, unlike the evil whites who refused to give citizenship to the real Australian Aborigines until recently.

Proud to Indonsian
So you are Chinese

Well just one word of warning-and I will not pursue the discussion after this ( as I have been given some sound advice).

There were French people in Europe who supported the the German Invaders during World War 2.

They "saw no evil" as well

However, come the end of the war there was a time of reckoning,
and sorry to say,their fate was not pretty.

PTBI - 'noble aboriginals' wrongly portrayed as abusers? You are an ignorant fool.

The Crown Prosecutor for Alice Springs, Nanette Rogers, spoke on television in Sydney, detailing many horrific cases of child abuse in the aboriginal community. Baby rape is common.

She told how a seven-month-old and a two-year-old were raped in separate incidents, and how a young child drowned while being raped by an 18-year-old petrol sniffer.

Aboriginal boys are 10 times more likely to be raped than other Australian males, in a continuing generational cycle of sexual violence. A survey of 301 indigenous men in Queensland and the NT was conducted over the past 18 months - it found that 10% had been raped before the age of 16 (10 times the rate in the rest of Australia).

In a Kimberley community a four-year-old boy was repeatedly raped by a mature man, until the child lost control of his bodily functions. He was taken to Perth for surgery, then returned to his community (his parents could not be found) until nine months later he was savagely raped again by a 12-year-old assailant.

Local indigenous community leaders (all men) will not speak out or condemn perpetrators who are linked to them by kinship ties. During a tour a few years ago, aboriginal women were threatened if they spoke out about the situation. Much of the rape and sexual abuse come from the tribal custom of promising baby girls to older men as wives. One 9 year old girl had been promised as a wife to a middle aged man, he and his sons kidnapped her, took her into the bush where she was raped continually for 4 days.

There are a thousand stories like these - recently 12 children from one small community were admitted to Cairns Base Hospital, all physically or sexually assaulted. One of them, a seven-year-old girl, had four sexually transmitted diseases of the anus and vagina. One-third of 13-year-old girls in the NT are infected with chlamydia and gonorrhoea.

So much for the 'nobility' of aboriginals.

This is the most ludicrous falsehood you could ever come up with, PTBI. I can only assume that your sententious replies are just desperate cries to get someone to come help you out. But no one will come back you up, because it is hard to support your line of reasoning when you can't even be factual to begin with. I haven't even made any slanderous comments about aborigines or dehumanised them in any way.

For starters, the aborigines never claimed to have owned the land they inhabited. They did move around a lot, as dictated by food sources available. When the British came to invade/settle Australia, they found it quite easy to settle the land because of a lack of contact with aborigines. I could go on about a history of Australia, but I think it would be a waste of my time trying to educate a xenophobe like you (PTBI).

But, to cut a long story short, the aborigines have no been killed off, or they would not exist today. Secondly, if it is theft of the land that you are concerned with, then the amount of money that the Australian government has thrown at aboriginal people would be enough money to buy the whole of Australia off of them a number of times over. No need to worry about "renting" Australia off aborigines, as you suggested, when white Australia has well and truly bought the land already.

I can accept that "most Chinese-Indonesians" don't speak Chinese in Indonesia. But, after looking up information about Chinese-Indonesians just yesterday, there were website sections written about how Megawati had her recent election posters written in Chinese. So, at the very least, there must be some form of segregation going on still between ethnic Chinese and Indonesians in modern day Indonesia.

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