PTBI

Once again, you have ignored a straight question that I asked of you.

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You are exhibiting the most blatant duplicity in being so vehemently against white Australians for displacing aboriginal Australians, when you are not against Indonesians displacing the very culturally and racially different West Papuans, or at least not occupying their land without their permission or not retreating at the first sign of conflict.

Return West Papua to the Papuans.

@BOAZ_David:

I know people like you, a religious fanatic. The only problem you have with transmigration is that many of them are not Christians. What you want is for these transmigrants to be forcibly converted to Christianity before moving to Papua, like mediaeval Inquisitions.

Sorry to say it seems your seminary never teach you something called "religious freedom". Let people follow whatever religion they want. Or is this idea too incomprehensible for you?

Maaf saja, but you can put your religious hate up your ...

We Indonesians couldn't care less about what Australians think, we'll live wherever part of our country we want to live.

@Ludwig:

LOL, West Papuans have many cultural, racial, and religious similarities with other Indonesians. Meanwhile, whites have no connection whatsoever with the Aborigines.

RETURN AUSTRALIA TO ABORIGINES NOW !

Indonesians should ponder the oppression of religious minorities by the 85% Islamic majority.

* In 2005, 3 churches in Bekasi, West Java closed down by the Mayor and all congregants banned from worshipping in their church and their homes. 300 Islamic militants reportedly conducted their own 'service' to prevent Christians from worshipping.

* 3 Indonesian woman serving a 3 year prison sentence after their conviction of 'attempting to coerce children to change their religion' under the Indonesian 'Child Protection Act'. Their 'crime'? Running a Christian Sunday school.

* 5 dozen bombs found in Poso during a raid on Islamic extremists; the al-Queda-linked terrorist group murdered 12 Christians. 2 bombs were detonated in the marketplace of Tentena (a Christian town)- 22 people were killed and 40 wounded.

* During the ICC (International Christian Concern) visit, the team went to several refugee camps where Christians have fled from villages throughout Ambon and other Malukan islands following Islamic attacks. They heard horrific testimonies concerning the brutal murder of loved ones, forced conversions, and the circumcision of men, women and children without any form of medication.

* A couple with 5 small children forcibly taken to a mosque and each member of the family circumcised with either a razor blade or a dull knife, including their youngest, a 6-year-old.

* An 11-year-old boy's parents killed by the jihadi scum and hacked to pieces with swords. He fled to the forest where he lived on wild plants for 2 weeks.

* Witness Anus Kueso confirmed stories of forced conversion, forced circumcision, orders to abandon Christianity in exchange for the teachings of the koran and to continue in the Islamic faith or otherwise die as an 'apostate'. His village was attacked in February and another 3,000 jihadi scum arrived by sea. The islanders tried to defend themselves but..

Space prohibits me from continuing.

The utter laughable audacity of any Indonesian labelling others as Nazis etc. when this disgrace is happening in Indonesia would be funny if it were not so tragic for the people involved.

STOP PERSECUTING NON-MUSLIMS NOW!

@dee:

What you mentioned were conflicts between religions in Ambon and Poso which happened due to the power-vacuum after the fall of Suharto and advent of democracy. These conflicts have been ended thanks to the peace-making efforts of the current-VP Jusuf Kalla in the Malino Peace Agreement I in 2001 (for Poso) and II in 2002 (for Ambon). Indeed, these conflicts are the price of democracy, it remains to be seen whether the fruits of democracy is worthy of its costs.

Meanwhile, Australia who claims to be democracy, must learn to treat its Aborigines with respect!

RETURN AUSTRALIA TO ABORIGINES!

PTBI,

“West Papuans have many cultural, racial, and religious similarities with other Indonesians. Meanwhile, whites have no connection whatsoever with the Aborigines”.

What a ridiculous excuse for and answer!

They do not have cultural, racial or religious similarities with Indonesians. Before contact, they were as different as PNG people were from Australians or Indonesians, or Aborigines were from white Australians. Any cultural or religious influences and thus similarities post-contact cannot be included. Besides, if there were some similarities, so what?

The West Papuans are being displaced by Indonesians. They don’t want them there. They want their independence from them. This is exactly the same principle that you so vehemently criticise Australia over regarding Aborigines, and over which you say; “Return Australia to Aborigines now”. Of course you failed to comment on this point, because you couldn’t have… without conceding that you are indeed being totally duplicitous.

And for the third time you have ignored a direct question: Is it your intention to stir up strife on this forum, which will filter into other areas and increase polarisation and conflict between our countries?

BOONG.... BOOONG .....BOOOONG ........BOOOOOOOOOONG!

That is the sound of an empty drum being struck and more than likely will be the only sane response you will receive.

I completely and abysmally fail to comprehend why you even continue trying to argue any points .......... unless of course following chainsmokers post, which I have taken the liberty of pasting below, you have an agenda of your own perhaps?

"If I was a highly articulate person who, for some perverse reason, wanted to stir up anti-Indonesian sentiment in Australia, I would find a popular Australian website with a comments forum.

Next, I would give myself some slightly provocative and possibly misleading tag (similar to chainsmoker-do you assume cigarettes or trout?).

Then I would set about using a mixture of facts, fantasy and probably a bit of name-calling to get people to really dislike me. I would probably enjoy watching the results of my posts.

If I was a real whiz with language nobody would notice when I slip out of character from time to time"

......... BUT then again perhaps he is the only other one to see through the smoke and mirrors, while you bleat rant and rave about no propper responses..........