Solomani,

Welcome to on line opinion 'OLO' - your contribution to reason and sanity is appreciated.

Unfortunately I much doubt that this will appeal to the “my mind is made up don’t bother me with the facts” clan here. They enjoy arguing their lost case thinking that they owe their life and have full control of their destiny.

This is a spiritual warfare as you know. Only a spiritual intervention will open these people’s eyes and soften their hearts to accept God’s precepts.

How can we describe life to the blind?
How can we communicate love to a heart of rock?
How can we break through a closed mind?

Only God can bring them to the foot of the cross to meet His Son Jesus. Only then will they understand how futile their own understanding has been all along.

Arrogance and scientific reliance made the Titanic unsinkable...

Coach,
Thanks for your comments. Ultimately I agree with you. Until people's lives are changed by Christ through the Holy Spirit nothing will truly change people’s hearts and minds. I also know from experience people who bandy about these "logical" and "historical" evidence of why they hate God and Christianity are really not being honest. There is a deeper, personal, reason why. I also find it crazy so many of these atheists and agnostics say they rejected God when they were 5, 8 or 11 or some such and seem to be proud of that. I find that odd that you base your entire framework of how you live your life based on a decision you made as a child! And generally, its clear, most of the anti-Christian arguments are at the level of a 5, 8 or 11 year old.

Having said that I always hold out hope that pure reason and logic can sway some people. These are the people who tend to be generally agnostic towards God but based on their current understanding see the idea of religion as irrational. So I can't help but try :)

Still waiting for an answer, lyrebird.

Was your experience with an individual, or with "the system"?

I haven't found, from a random sounding of friends who are teachers and educationalists, a single one who has heard of the rules you describe.

They are all of the opinion that you met some kind of uptight functionary who doesn't like you very much and was having a bad hair day.

But it piqued their interest, so if you could help out with a reference to the policy itself, that would help a great deal.

Otherwise, your story is interesting only at the level of a shop assistant being rude to you.

Solomani, there is no doubt that you have the teddy mind virus.

Some questions. When exactly did you get infected and is your teddy (god) a top shelf teddy? i.e. an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent teddy who created the universe, logic and reason? Plus, why would Hitler say "Secular schools can never be tolerated ..."? You may like to include some of your "hope that pure reason and logic can sway some people." LOL

To help you overcome your obvious anthropocentric mindset and much rote learning, you may like to consider this ..........
If from the formation of our solar system to the present represents a walk of one mile (1.6 Kilometres), then 0.001 of an inch (.0254 millimeters) or half the thickness of a medium human hair = human lifetime.

Keiran,
Answer my question first - what’s all this teddy stuff? I know you are trying to be insulting (I guess?). But it just sounds silly and lame. Just curious what’s the history of this fixation for you.

Regarding Hitler. When you read the stuff I've linked then feel free to ask questions. I own Mien Kampf as well and have read it. So please justify your quote. What page is it on?

Finally - ahhh evolution - my favourite pet peeve and one of my areas of academic expertise. I am happy to "debate" you on the finer points. But as I said I want to know about this teddy bear you worship first, the source of your quote and finally what is your counter argument against the links I posted showing the link between evolution and atheism with NAZI Germany.

Solomani, some reading to knock this one over first ...... will get to teddies and evolution later.

"God does not make cowardly nations free." -- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

Soldiers of the vermacht wore belt buckles inscribed with the following: "Gott mit uns" = God is with us.

Mein Kampf ....... "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord,"

"We must turn all the sentiments of the Volk, all its thinking, acting, even its beliefs, away from the anti-Christian, smug individualism of the past, from the egotism and stupid Phariseeism of personal arrogance, and we must educate the youth in particular in the spirit of those of Christ's words that we must interpret anew: love one another; be considerate of your fellow man; remember that each one of you is not alone a creature of God, but that you are all brothers! " (Hitler: Memoirs of a Confidant, page 140)

"It will be the Government's care to maintain honest cooperation between Church and State; the struggle against materialistic views and for a real national community is just as much in the interest of the German nation as in that of the welfare of our Christian faith." (At the Reichstag, March 23, 1933)

"We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out." (Berlin, Oct. 24, 1933)

"But there is something else I believe, and that is that there is a God. . . . And this God again has blessed our efforts during the past 13 years." (Hitler ... Munich, Feb. 24, 1940)

"An educated man retains the sense of the mysteries of nature and bows before the unknowable. An educated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal)." (Hitler's Table Talk, 1941-1944, page 59)