Must say this whole (big foreign word) of human worship looks inane and irrational to most solid thinkers. These Freudian, Lenin/Marxian and Nietzshian teddies represent an extension of their followers own egos and psyches which they often violently attempt to penetrate and spread noxiousness of the entire earth . . . . enslaving souls in a Freudian penis envy/phallic, Nazi, Bolshevik and Khmer prison. Some like to be a teddy cheerleader where all manner of crimes are endemic and state sponsored.

Just wish people would grow up and realize there is something erroneous with this particular game . . . there never has been a true teddy, nor a default one (oneself only) and nor will there be a future Third Reich, Year one, or Proletarian revolution.

Totalitarian ideologies should be kept out of school education full stop. Secular humanistic indoctrination is the logical use of fear of the true creaturely nature of human beings, as a very powerful inducement to self worship and relativism. There is the perversion of reason, free inquiry, participatory democracy (when all creeds except traditional Christianity are allowed public expression), in this systematic manipulation. The end product is a fearful flight from the sacrifice and hence promises of Christ and the consequent true achievement of human potential.

Surely we can progress from the silly ideas that the universe is self existent, that right and wrong is created by humans and the belief that reward and punishment are the motivations of Christians rather than a delight in the intrinsic beauty of the good.

When you right that nonsense Kieran you only make yourself into a tool, a dumb instrument. The only good that comes from it is that you turn marginal Christians into true ones, encourage the explication of Christianity and reveal the fanaticism of many who hate Jesus and his Church.

Tell us what you believe mate. Lets have some fun.

You are just as dogmatic, Keiran, as those who come on here pushing their own religious beliefs. I was brought up nominally Anglican, but never believed the literal accounts of such things as Adam and Eve and Noah's Ark. Even as a young child, my own intelligence told me that these were not literal truths. At 15, I realised that I regarded much of the Apostles' Creed as either erroneous or irrelevant. But that did not mean that I rejected the whole belief system as definitely nonsense.

During my long life, I have had a varied number of what could be described as psychic experiences. You, Keiran, knowing nothing of me or my experiences, can regard it all as nonsense if you wish. Some of our more dogmatic religious posters may regard it as the devil's work. I see it as an indication that there are things going on which are beyond our present understanding.

For Philo and others who denigrate gay people [or the sexual activity which is natural to them]. No, two males [or two females] don't "make" a child. But most of the time, sexual activity by a mixed sex couple doesn't make a child either! Gay people are not a "dead species", they're a normal part of normal families.

My children, by a wife I was married to at the time, are all adults. I see my grandchildren only occasionally, so my life doesn't consist of telling them stories. And, Philo, my life is far from dull!

I'm a "one lady at a time" person, and most of the sexual activity in my life was certainly not intended to produce a child. Maybe that's what some would call self-centred. I would say, "Mind your own damn business, [if that's at all possible!]".

Keiran......your nonsense only goes to prove: you don't know what your talking about. Get help, mate, re your fixation with "teddies"

So Philo, the answer, as far as it is comprehensible, is that gay people are bad because they don't reproduce? Therefore, priests, infertile people and people who cannot find a partner to have children with are also bad. Hmmmm..

And also Philo, not all gay people are men, and 2 women plus a little sperm from a friend can most certainly make children. So I guess lesbians are OK and gay men are bad (just like priests and infertile people). Makes perfect sense, as long as you are completely detached from logic and reason.

Philo

I have devoted my professional life to people with mental health problems. I am proud of that.

I have also done some rather awful things in my personal life, for which I am not proud. But I have made amends when it was appropriate, or I was able to do so.

I will not be going to your hell.

You say that God is "perfect". I get the impression that as a devout follower of Christian God, you think you are made in that perfect image? I guess therefore that you have not ever made any mistakes, told a white lie, lost your temper, said damn or buggar - and that you have always held people of other religious or non-religious faiths as equal to yourself?

I will be interested in your response
Cheers
Kay

Martin, why is the idea that right and wrong can be determined by humans a silly one?