Right on, Irfan.

If we are talking about butchers of humanity it is worth remembering that Slobodan Milosovic's Serbs were primarily Greek Orthodox Christians and most of the Kosovo Albanians they slaughtered were Muslim.

Religion is a poor predictor of violent behaviour, although half a dozen posters to this site seem to believe, contrary to the evidence, that they are synonymous.

But we don't get facts from them.

We get, endlessly reiterated, the same unsupported opinions.

Let's channel the late Eric Blair on the subject of endlessly reiterated, unsupported opinions, http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/animalfarm/

OPENING CHANNEL TO THE SPIRIT WORLD...
All the humbler animals set to work to learn the new maxim by heart. CHRISTIANS GOOD, MUSLIMS BAD, was inscribed on the end wall of the barn, above the Ten Commandments and in bigger letters. When they had once got it by heart, the sheep developed a great liking for this maxim, and often as they lay in the field they would all start bleating "Christians good, Muslims bad! Christians good, Muslims bad!" and keep it up for hours on end, never growing tired of it.
CHANNEL CLOSED.

The lambs of God can continue bleating all they like, but the rest of us have more productive thoughts to occupy our minds.

So does Irfan or the other leftist do gooders know what had led up to the Cronulla violence?

I've seen and experienced this Muslim bile and hate myself.
The people at Cronulla have put up with Muslim racism for years.Their women were called Aussie sluts and many others were either intimidated or assaulted by professed Muslim gang members.

What broke the straw on the camel's back was the assault on a pregant woman,who was pushed on the ground and called an "Aussie slut" The life savers took umbridge to this and thus they were in turn,serverly assaulted and taken to hospital.

So now according to Irfan and the left wing media,it is all the fault of racists right wing armchair Nazis?Well Irfan,who are the real facists and Nazis that specialise in disinformation?

If Irfan and the so called moderates acknowledged the violence and hate that exists in their community,perhaps we would have a starting point of reconciliation,but alas they live in denial.

Arjay, so what you are saying is that if some thugs of Middle Eastern appearance attack you, the proper and correct response is to get totally plastered and stoned and then bash someone with a darker shade of skin than yours. Even if they are Bangladeshi Hindus or Afghan Parsis.

I'm so glad you aren't in Parliament. Then again, I doubt the Arjay Nazi Party would ever do well at any stage in the near future.

Keep trying, Arjay. It's people like you who make Muslim-haters look just so plain dumb.

To Mr Wobbles.

The serious crime problem in the Vietnamese ghetto of Cabramatta has not been solved because the place is still full of Vietnamese. But after Tim Priest exposed the total disinterest of senior police to do their jobs, one hopes that things are now better in Cabramatta.

Both Alan Jones and John Laws do have an immense amount of influence upon public opinion. When Laws and Jones indulge in a little self aggrandisement, such as in the infamous “cash for comment” scandal, I will give both of them a kick up the butt. But if Alan Jones does his job and uses his immense power for the public good, then I will give him the credit he deserves for that. I doubt if Alan Jones will distance himself from Tim Priest because of new allegations of lies, because he did not distance himself from Tim when there were old allegations of lies. Those old allegations were proven to just as big a fabrication as the so called “stolen generations.” Alan stood by Tim because he realised that Tim was a very courageous man who was taking an immense risk to inform the public, that senior police were more interested in improving their golf scores than protecting OUR society..

If Costa, Priest and Jones “conspired” to get rid of a police Commissioner, whose term in office had been a public catastrophe, I don’t see what you can complain about. That any police Commissioner could allow a situation to develop whereby senior regional command police officially told their police to refrain from making arrests, because they did not want their Crime Index statistics to look bad, is what should be “alarming” you.

Tim Priest has shown just how terrified our police force has become towards stepping on sensitive ethnic toes and how our pollies are terrified of 'offending' our Middle Eastern communities lest this should have grave consequences at the polling booths.

Irfan

I've said this before, I don't condone what happened at Cronulla. It could've been a decent demo but a few turned nasty. Even if it had been peaceful you would still be in full flight.

Being an old Cronulla boy myself I've experienced first hand what's been happening there for years. Nothing was ever done about it and the locals were frustrated.

I've got the Four Corners version 'riot' on video and will watch it soon but I wouldn't call the ABC completely impartial.

My brother was actually at the 'riot' and took stills and video. It's hardly a riot, he's currently tranferring it to DVD, want a copy? Sydney Laywers ain't it? Doesn't prove anything, he couldn't get close to the action because there was bugger all there.

I used to work in a German hospital. There, I've argued with REAL NAZIS, (they were more lucid than you) they were old men now but during the war they killed civillians on the Russian front. I also met, in Auschwitz, a survivor of 3 concentration camps and Mengele's regular selections who gave me a personal tour of the place, he dug the swimming pool there back in '44. Anyway, comparing us to nazis is stupid and just trivialises the whole arguement.

Finally it's not the colour of your skin, it's your ideology, how many times do we have to say it. I've dealt with blonde, blue-eyed mossie fruitcakes in the past too.

You can call us nazis and fruitcakes all you like, all one has to do is remember what your beliefs are mate.

You are truly incredible Irf

I suggest Joseph Wakim read Tim Priest's article again without a chip on his shoulder. Accept the premise that one must accept responsibility for one's actions and not defend the indefensible. Life today is about accepting and managing change and not forcing one beliefs and attitudes on others.

Peter Priest.

Though I have the same surname I have neither met or know Tim Priest.
P.P.