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Adept at puerile politics : Comments

By Ted Lapkin, published 21/2/2006

The timing, scope and focus of the Danish cartoon controversy raises suspicions this crisis owes much to cynical manipulation.

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Coach,

Islam being anti-Semitic is another myth.
Why did Jews live and prosper within Muslim communities for the last 14 centuries?
Why did prophet Mohamed accept peace treaties with Jews and honoured it? Why did all the ayoubi & fatemite period (890AD onwards) had the great thinkers and physicians being Jews?
Last I checked Hitler (First name Adolph not Ahmad!) was a devout Christian taking revenge for Jesus blood.

Jews and Christians described as people of the book in our Holy Scripture. The Quran refers to many good believers amongst them.

The criticism for the Jews is in one of three categories:

- Some Jews who manipulate their own faith (around usury and interest: God claims that all interest is forbidden).
- Disbelief in all prophets (including Jesus).
- Accusing the Virgin Mary of adultery.

Christians released Jews from the blood of Jesus only 40 years ago.
The famous quote “his blood is on us & on our children” ceased to exist only under the Judeo Christian philosophy.
Sorry coachy, you were inspired by Pinocchio on this one!

Peace,
Posted by Fellow_Human, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 1:50:34 PM
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Sorry Irfan, but Israeli papers don't publish cartoons resurrrecting the ancient mythologies of ethnic hatred that have fueled pogroms, massacres and expulsions. There is nothing equivalent in Ha'aretz and Ma'ariv to the medieval portrayals of the blood libel and the hook-nosed evil Jew that populate the pages of al-Hayat al Jedida and other Arab newspapers. Ralph Waldo Emerson once wrote: "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen, philosophers and divines." Such hobgoblinhood does not become you.

Moreover, there is nothing peurile or bigoted about the views of Daniel Pipes, who goes to great pains to differentiate between most Muslims and an a fanatical jihadist minority that has, in his words, hijacked Islam for its own nefarious purposes.

Then you oh-so-predictably play the race card, employing one of the favourite epithets of the anti-war left in an disingenuous attempt to portray my organisation as a cabal of ethnic bigots. But as Kenny Rogers sang about card games, you gotta know when to hold’em, and know when to fold’em. It is entirely legitimate to criticise the jihadists who are waging war against the democratic world in the name of their warped interpretation of the Qur'an. Your cheap gambit of using the “r” word simply won’t wash. Or, as they say in the part of the world where I grew up: “that dog just won’t hunt.” Time for you to fold that hand, Irfan, and to move on to a more constructive argument that is based on fact rather than hysteria
Posted by Ted Lapkin, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 2:35:19 PM
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Fellow human states,"The recently orchestrated violence were condemned by ALL muslims."
If ALL muslims condemned the violence--who was it that burned flags, buildings,smashed Embassies, threw rocks etc etc?
Dr Ameer stated that freedom of speech should not be permitted if it upset ONE FIFTH of the global population.
That means the other FOUR FIFTHS should kowtow to Muslim sensitivities. Does that sound right?
Islam is in its Dark Ages, it must stay there in chains of ideology or get itself out. Perhaps when enough of its people cry freedom then it will find the light.
Posted by mickijo, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 2:46:54 PM
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No one on this thread should be duped by the so called moderation of Irfan and Fellow Human. Both of them deep down are fundamentalists in moderate clothing.

Anyone who dares speak about the true facts laying behind the capers and tricks of fundamentalist Muslims, is dubbed by Irfan as a Nazi or a Fascist. Mark Steyn now, who dared to write the truth about the demographics of Europe based on indisputable statistics, that threaten many counties of the Continent with extinction, as a result of the high birthrates of Muslims and their non-integration to the main culture of the countries they reside in, is also given the "judicial" appellation of a Nazi by our notary Irfan.

As I said in a previous post, "scratch the back of a Western educated Muslim and all the troglodyte views of their rigid religious upbringing will come on the surface." Both Irfan and Fellow Human are the embodiment of this kind of educated Muslims. And by the way, you must have noticed the "holy warrior", as the true intepreter of the Koran, Fellow Human, always ends his postings with a priest's blessing, "PEACË." This ruse is a perfect cover-up of his true leanings, and no one should fall a victim to his guile.

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Posted by Themistocles, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 3:12:36 PM
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Where did the poor souls who burnt the Danish and other flags get the finances to buy and burn brand new flags ,did the local stores happen to stockpile the flags in anticipation of a flag burn and do they have others ready for another episode of pumped up trouble.
Posted by dobbadan, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 3:16:36 PM
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Remco, sorry but Martin Luther was not the "saint" nor "liberator" that he has been portrayed to be. Ever read his "The Jews and Their Lies"......interesting that Luther has been written of as:The Spiritual Ancestor of the Nazis". Also, what do you mean by the Dark Ages?

Fellow-Human: if Muhammed was such a decent, tolerant bloke why did he allow the massacre of Jewish males?.....Why does Saudi Arabia forbid the free exercise of religion other than Islam?....and Hitler was not a devout Christian. Sorry to disappoint you!
Posted by Francis, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 3:31:23 PM
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