Congratulations Andrew, good to know there are politicians with higher priorities than political expediency.

As these posts indicate, there's little thanks or political gain in defending truth or justice with many anti-lifers, especially when it comes to defending the unborn...no votes there either you lot - too young, so that answers the rot being yabbied on about voting pro-life for political gain.

Yabby you claim to have an extraordinary knowledge of the sexual habits of bonobos, history of the 'missionary position' (obviously concocted?) and make outrageous statements about Christians, Catholics and their sexual practices.

From "even bonobos do it in the so called "missionary position", so perhaps thats where the missionaries learnt all about it :)" and next post "The Christian Church has a major problem with sex anyhow”...” So the missionaries tried to convince the locals that if they were going to do these evil things, at least do them in the least evil way, ie. the missionary position."

Obviously your story was concocted between posts, although why the missionary position might be regarded as "the least evil way", is something best left in the corners of you own mind.

What have the sexual practices of bonobos or the local natives interest in, "all kinds of fun sex, without too many inhibitions"...to do with RU486 anyway. Your obsession with "fun sex" and bonobos is irrelevant to the topic. Your ego is getting carried away with itself if you're suggesting that Catholics and other Christians don't enjoy sex – who needs your paranoia clouding the issue with imaginings to hide your lack of knowledge?

If your evolving relatives are, in your mind and as you have previously suggested, the same as humans -then who are you to support breeding programs to prevent their extinction. If you support abortion for unborn humans, it follows that bonobos (if equal) should be left to deal with survival of the fittest…or extinction - nature is after all a cruel accountant as countless extinct species will attest. You can't have it both ways-equal or not?

Interested to hear Alan Grey’s US perspective on RU486 posted.

Meg, there is indeed lots of on topic stuff, when discussing
sex and RU 486. If the church was so serious about dropping the abortion rate as it claims to be, then every catholic school would
have excellent education on contraception as part of the curriculum.

But the church plods on with its mantra that contraception is in conflict with gods law. Even many catholics think this is a lot
of nonsense and is creating misery for people.
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=29319

I find it amusing that they call the Vatican "fundamentalists".

Bonobos and chimps are not the same as humans, in fact the last few thousand are landing up in the dinner pot, to feed the ever growing masses in Africa. Why you see no problem with that but think people should continue to breed like rabbits, because that is god's law,
beats me

Yabby, your previous posts argue that Chimps and bonobos have the same DNA as we do and are the same...if you consider it is ok to tear unborn humans piece by piece from their mother's womb, why is it you expect special consideration for bonobos or chimps.

I don't agree that the unborn should be killed, rather that the mother should be adequately supported through the pregnancy and I do not like cruelty to animals either.

If these people have no other food source, they have no choice but to eat the bonobos and chimps, the answer is to provide another food source. You eat, if they have no alternative, so will they - whatever is available. Reality, isn't it?

You claim that it is Church law that Catholics should "breed like rabbits"...that must be the Church of Yabby in your mind again...rabbits aren't too choosey who they breed with and forget about their progeny once they can offload them. Doesn't sound like the teachings of the Church I know.

As for contraception, you obviously haven't heard about Natural Family Planning - methods used by many other than Catholics, very successfully. Broaden your mind, they obviously work as well for planning the conception of children as they do to space children...you learn something new every day Yabby.

Meg, I said that bonobos and chimps shared 99% of dna with humans, so they are a little different, not much.

RU 486 does not tear any babies apart, a misscarriage happens and the organism is expelled, much as happens when women misscarry, which is very common. Just think about it Meg, how many potentially
cute babies you have flushed down the toilet once a month, without giving it a second thought. Now because somebody else flushes a potentially cute baby down the toilet, because the pope says so,
you are highly concerned. By the way, even the suction method
of abortion, does not tear babies apart. A clump of dividing cells, with no feeling or intellect are simply sucked out. Those cells feel and think no more then the potential babies that you have flushed down the toilet in your lifetime. Think about it.

Bonobos, chimps and other species are being eaten in Africa because of huge population growth pressures. Part of those pressures are caused by organisations associated with the Vatican, usually run by
Catholics. The encouragement is for ever more babies, no matter what the cost in terms of sustainablity, or the future of the planet.
Things will be fine, god has a plan. Oh yeah lol.

I know all about the rythm method and it was clearly explained to me by a Catholic who teaches it and landed up with 6 kids :) Fact is that 80% of Catholics don't think much of it.

‘if you consider it is ok to tear unborn humans piece by piece from their mother's womb, why is it you expect special consideration for bonobos or chimps.’ Yabby, you approve of abortion…therefore you approve of the methods.

‘Just think about it Meg, how many potentially cute babies you have flushed down the toilet once a month, without giving it a second thought.’

Your ignorance of the reproductive process is astounding, Yabby, even sad. Your comments would be more appropriate if left to entertain your own delusions and religious bigotry privately.

The process of release of ovum is entirely natural and not a live, developing, human baby…as is the child that is destroyed by abortion.

…but you have made your first accurate statement…my babies are all VERY CUTE! Thank you, it is the first assumption you are right about!

‘By the way, even the suction method of abortion, does not tear babies apart…Those cells feel and think no more then the potential babies that you have flushed down the toilet in your lifetime.’

Once again Yabby, you are wrong…on both counts. Check your facts and in consideration for those who may have inflicted this method of abortion on their child, I will not enlarge further.

Crikey the Catholics are plotting to support the eating of Chimps and Bonobos too…now you really are sounding obsessive…careful, they might hear you.

‘I know all about the rythm method and it was clearly explained to me by a Catholic who teaches it and landed up with 6 kids :) Fact is that 80% of Catholics don't think much of it.’

You’re a bit outdated with Natural Family Planning, Yabby. Contrary to more of your usual bigoted fantasies, natural family planning is successfully used widely throughout the world and not just by Catholics or Christians…and babies are planned, not just avoided…hence the children your acquaintance conceived.

Typically, anti-lifers consider that every child is a ‘mistake’ and cannot accept that others welcome children as the joy they are and not as a burden.
So much for ‘accepting’ her choices…you’ve exposed your real attitude again, Yabby.

Meg1,
You have spoken the truth. We are dealing here with perverted minds as to the nature of reality and the practise of the Christian faith.
Keep up the defense of life.