"The Muslim mobs might also consider how the Prophet responded to attacks on himself. I am not aware of any biographical record of the Prophet taking any revenge for attacks on his person. I remember one recorded incident of a Jewish neighbour who was in the habit of pouring faeces over the Prophet. One day, the faeces stopped. The Prophet’s response was to inquire about the neighbour’s health."

THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED OF Irfan: which biographies of Mohammad has he read, and which biographies of Mohammad is he aware of but has not read?

Preserving your culture isn't hate. It's survival.

When a government has ceased to protect the lives,
liberty and property of the people, from whom it's
legitimate powers are derived, and for the
advancement of whose happiness it was instituted,
and, so far from being a guarantee for the enjoyment
of those inestimable and inalienable rights, becomes an
instrument in the hands of evil rulers for their oppression;...
--THE TEXAS DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, MARCH 2, 1836

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will
not be needed until they try to take it."
--Thomas Jefferson
I think That we are at cross roads now of either standing up for our nations culture for survival or we cave in and allow Muslims to dictate to Australians to go their demanding twisted ways, to rule us and TAKE OVER OUR LOVED LAND .

Politicians and leaders who are ignoring this ,need not apply, at the next elections.
We need a declaration like the above, for our sanity sake and safety before we are snowballed ,as have the French newspapers ,being sued by Muslims because they re- printed the cartoons. Come on Aussie come on!

GZ Tan,

Go to the Nobel prize organisation website.
Even that Islamic culture is at rock bottom, there were 8 Nobel prize winners (including 4 for peace) in the last two decades.

Martin Ibn W,

Tend to agree with other posters you need to study a lot more.
The Egyptian Islamic Museum in Cairo have original scripture of the Quran (undotted). Scanned with C14, it dates back to the 7th century when the Holybook was written in the time of the prophet (althought not collected at the same period). There is only one version of the Quran.

There is no point in comparing authenticity of the Quran and the Bible but you can re-read Alchemist postings on the subject to learn a little more. There are so many inserts in modern day bibles and discrepencies with previously authenticated versions of the bible pre the Roman Catholic period.
If you have access to someone who is fluent in reading in old languages he will tell you the translation varies from Coptic to Latin to Arabic to English (both meanings and verses).

Posted by coach, Saturday 11 Feb; “If some muslims are 'moderate’; it's either a deliberately hypocritical or unwittingly ignorant position ...ALL muslims know damn well what the west is: Evil. This knowledge is deeply seeded in their brains from infancy in their homes and schools.

I wish we had some Jewish people in these forums to add their accounts of the true stories...they understand too well what those arabs represent (spiritually or physically) to them: a mere nuisance that they can squash any time they wish; but chose not to, to maintain world peace... longer.”

Hi Coach, I’m Jewish, for my personal perspective see http://webdiary.com.au/cms/?q=node/1241#comment

But it’s probably not what you’re expecting or wanting. I do know a bit about Arabs, my sister married one, an Iraqi Jew. I recently visited Middle East, stayed with an Arab Muslim family.

My views are not representative of all Jews but then my experiences are different. Jews don’t all think alike, anymore than a group comprising athletes, or teenagers, or single dads, or teachers, or dog owners, or Australians...or Christians or Muslims.

Best wishes

Fellow_Human,

Your hypocritical assertions are fast eroding the last bit of credibility you have left on OLO
You may have one or two historical pieces of the Qur'an - but the facts still are: "There is no possible compromise between biblical Christianity and Islam and none should be sought."

You have a dilemma
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Fellow Posters,

I must stand for the true Gospel (and against all other false teachings).

"There is only one true faith; prophesied in the Garden of Eden, typified in the days of Noah, confirmed to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and realized in the Person and work of Jesus Christ."

Dialogue with Muslims is therefore not possible due to vast differences between Christianty and islam (nothing in common).

1. According to the Bible, Allah is not God.
2. Therefore Muhammed is not a prophet
3. AND the Qur’an is not the Word of God (or His angels).

Furthermore:

1. Islam has rejected the essential teachings of the Word of God.
2. Islam doesn't recognize Jesus Christ as the Saviour or The Son of God.
3. The person and work of Christ is the crucial divider between Christianity and Islam.
4. Islam offers false hope - cannot save (utterly without power to save mankind)
5. Islam’s so-called prophet brought an erroneous message from a false spirit that is totally opposed to the Gospel of God's grace.

No person, no matter how religious or how sincere, can possess truth or salvation apart from Christ's atoning death.

We are all hopelessly lost. All are naturally at enmity with God, unable to save ourselves

Jesus is the perfect and only sacrifice (substitute) which God will accepts in behalf of ALL sinners (everyone of us).

The only way for salvation: Repenting of one's sins, Believing and Trusting on Christ.

So coach what you appear to be suggesting is that there is really no possibility of meaningfull dialog between your type of christianity and any other belief system. "Your way or the highway" as it were.

Maybe it's about time we looked at sending fundy christains back where they came from or to some place where they will fit in.

Maybe better yet we could set aside a small island somewhere and stick all the extremists looking for a fight on it with a good supply of short range non radioactive weapons and just let you go for it. Might save that vast majority of people a lot of trouble and let us get on with improving this world. If your God (or anybody elses) has an issue with that he should know where to find me.

As a matter of interest exactly where in the bible does it mention Allah by name? There is a reasonable case to support that Allah is Jaweh (or however you spell that) by a different name, the God of the Old Testament.

R0bert