By far the best of Irfan's articles, although some of his points & examples reveal what he really thinks.

The bit about how if you just turned on the tv (seeing the rioters) you would be forgiven for thinking that Denmark just invaded Iran, or, he said......"Denmark just banned the veil in schools".

Your nearly there Irfan, just dump the spite. It's unhealthy.

Banning the veil in public school is neccessary, as western nations are secular. It never ceases to amaze me how hypocritical Muslims are, as they complain about easter hat parades in primary school, chocolate egg hunts (how either of these things could offend Muslims is mad, but then again, the entire Islamic world is protesting over some mild cartoons) yet want to display their religiousity for all to see, for women to see how impure they are for not wearing one.

As for your comments about the prophet Irfan, I don't believe that you aren't aware of his character. I won't 'offend' you by telling you about him, of what I've read from Islamic sources, but he was nothing like Christ. Nothing. Although I'm not Christian, I believe Christ's example was that of purity, what we should be.

Honestly Irfan, if you aren't using 'taqiyya' on us about how you somehow bizarrely think that Mohammed is a good example, go read more so you can leave Islam like Ibn Warraq ("Why I'm Not A Muslim" - excellent book).

Muslims rioting over a cartoon ? Nonsense. Why are they burning any flag other than Denmarks? Why is Iran blaming the Jews?

Why is that Muslims always tell us not to judge all of them because of a 'handful' of fanatics, even though their Australian Muslim leaders constantly make statements supporting terrorism and the Muslim community never protest for these bigots to step down.

Why not? Why not? No, really, why not?

Moreover, Muslims think themselves so superior they think they should be above criticism. This is why we are having so much conflict with the Lebanese gangs, and, as one of the youth leaders, Fadi Rahman put it during the Cronulla fightback, "they (the Lebanese youth) feel that they are superior to non-Muslims, and hate the west".

Don't judge all of us as terrorists, even though we never condemn it, but you draw a cartoon and we will condemn the whole west. How many Muslims are protesting? A million? I'd say it would have to be a fair cross-section of Muslims.

Irfan, you have a lot of work to do if you're community is to prosper. I think it's getting so bad that western nations will be forced to go against our own nature and vote in extremist right wing partys to deal with the threat.....

Benjamin

Thank you for your posts. Very thoughtful.

Cheers
Kay

Irfan,
Have not always agreed with what you have said of late, but this time you are absolutely right. The published cartoons was the wrong thing in the first place, knowing they would draw anger, but the response is way out of proportion.

This episode will set integration back years, in what was already a slow process. Like Bengeman said, you have a hell of a lot of work to do. If you and other Aussie Mossies can get more into positions of influence in your communities, I am sure it would help heaps. I look forward to that. Good luck

"I’d encourage you to ask specific questions about faith, don’t be afraid. Belief in God is much more rational than the alternatives. So you can expect common sense answers to your questions"

So if somebody went into the hot desert sun and had "revelations",
how do we know that they were a prophet and not simply suffering
from schizophrenia, which affects about 1% of the population...?

Here we go

This is the 'about us' page of the Minaret College in Melbourne

http://www.minaret.vic.edu.au/about_us/about_us.htm

It says

Values

'We abide by the Islamic values that are derived from Qur’an and the teachings of our prophet Mohammed (S.A.W).'

Hooraaayyy!

This same college is currently holding taqiyya, sorry islamic leadership courses.

http://www.minaret.vic.edu.au/news/launching_tertiary.htm

Wonderful.