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Acknowledging differences : Comments

By Abe Ata, published 16/1/2006

Abe Ata: Can the grievances of Anglo Australian and Australian Muslim communities be reconciled?

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kristos,
Please on the use of, "dont forget Australia was founded with convicts." Hardened murderers and criminals, were not the basis of the type of convicts sent to Australia. The convicts were generally nothing more than petty theives, like 'stole a loaf of bread' etc. Australia had equal numbers of free settlers and law enforcement arrive in early settlements.

You may not be interested in the 12,000 legal criminality checked refugees that enter Australia each year, but belive the leftist propaganda that only illegal refugees need fighting for to remain in this country. There appears to be strong elements of left propaganda rather than factual balance occurring in your opinion.

Much of the new criminals are entering Australia on family reunion. Note how many flee to families overseas when in trouble with the law. The proportion per head of some identifiable ethnic groups is far greater than the typical Australian home-grown criminal.
Posted by Philo, Sunday, 22 January 2006 12:48:01 PM
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Most of the immigrants we are getting from the middle east have shall we say colourful backgrounds.
Posted by FRIEDRICH, Sunday, 22 January 2006 1:10:29 PM
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here we go, the racist slurs against Ausralians once again.

Bunch of racist, xenophobic, materialistic convicts.

Why was I ever allowed in!
Posted by Verdant, Sunday, 22 January 2006 2:11:37 PM
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I mean it gets confusing. I am told by Kristos for eg that as an Australian I have to allow other cultures to change my culture and just accept it. But as I am an immigrant, (as is everyone according to Kristos) shouldn't I also be allowed to say what culture I want here?

Is there some sort of dividng line here I am not aware of? Some migrants get to change the cultural landscape but others are called racist, xenophobic, materialistic if they want a say in how the culture evolves? Does Kristos not tolerate everyones views, just some? But preaches tolerance?

Kristos, I will gladly go if you pay me compensation for migrating to country that sold itself as being free. Seems it isn't. I am always being persecuted for my political views by people such as yourself. What country can I go to where my basic human rights are respected? Where I can speak freely on political and social issues without being treated with no human dignity. You imply every other country on earth is better treating of political asylum seekers than Australia, pray tell me where this utopia exists?
Posted by Verdant, Sunday, 22 January 2006 2:27:32 PM
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guys!!
Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinions - which I enjoy being privy to greatly - just as I am entitled to my own. We are driven by own our values, beliefs and experiences, each of which differ with every individual... I BELIEVE that human beings are human beings and everyone deserves a fair go.... For me coming from a family of criminals and cousins who are in and out of jail for various crimes, if someone had of assumed me to be the same as the rest of my family than maybe today I would be. But fortunatly I was given a go and have been able to make positive life choices. Thus, I choose to bestow that opportunity apon others, YES this may not be what is seen as the 'right' choice, but until I see reason to be otherwise - that is who I am....

Philo - I agree with your comment about the convicts... And thankyou for the other info, as I said in my intial posting I know my opinions may be nieve (or as you said - left propaganda), and that is why I am here - to learn more :)

Verdant - my racist etc etc comment was directed at everyone, including myself.... I so strongly think that people make judgements about others without giving them a go first... I do not wish to minimise anyones political view or experiences, I am just stating my own.

I want everyone to be able to speak freely, which was why I was doing so.... and now I am the one needing to justify my political views....

Our culture will evolve in a way we have no control over, so rather than fighting against it we could all work together and be a bit more humanistic about it...
Posted by kristos, Sunday, 22 January 2006 3:31:29 PM
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"our culture will evolve". What culture?
Posted by FRIEDRICH, Sunday, 22 January 2006 3:51:27 PM
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