Bashir Goth “We will remove all the white man’s vestiges”

Would those vestiges include modern pharmaceuticals
Or Electricity
Or Water Pumps

Should “Africa” pursue a policy by which the vestiges of “White men” be the only ones to be removed or should “Arab vestiges” likewise be removed (from “Africa”).
Should the “European” Spanish remove the remaining vestiges of the “Moors” ? – Queen Isobella started that and the outcome was as “productive” as all the other small minded actions of the fearful possessed.

Whilst this article appears to be about “Africa”, it seems to be published in an Asian publication on an internet website, (oh another “white man’s vestiges”)

In short, this hypocrite, Bashir Goth, is complaining about those nasty “xenophobic” Europeans defending their borders, whilst simultaneously proclaiming the right of “Africa” to not only to do the same but to extend this action to remove all “vestiges” of European presence. All this, of course, it is claimed as being first published from Dubai (based on the home address of the website which carried it).
Dubai is hardly a paragon of parliamentary democracy, Then, we might also consider the rights and circumstances of “guest workers” in Arab countries and whether such a system is closer to economic slavery than equal representation as a free migrants.

I think the benefit of this article is to remind us that hypocrisy and bull-dust is not the unique preserve of “Europeans” or those of “European descent”. This article proves that hypocrisy and bull-dust is universal. It proves that hypocrisy and bull-dust is blind to matters of “quality”. It proves that men of any ethnic origin, are indeed equal and equally capable of producing meaningless drivel with which to incite the gullible.

Whilst everyone is entitled to their view, before they start dumping muck on other ethnic groups, they might look at their own history to avoid confirming their own hypocrisy.

"Whilst everyone is entitled to their view, before they start dumping muck on other ethnic groups, they might look at their own history to avoid confirming their own hypocrisy."

Well said Mr Rouge, I'm sure you'll agree that this can be applied to anyone that 'dumps' on Indigenous Australians as well.

Leigh."Im sure Germans would be interested in your racist remarks"Oh Leigh,you are so cutting,I will self flagellate later with a damp lettuce leaf,and teach myself not to be such a racist bastard.You knew very well where those remarks were leading.[Deleted for flaming. Poster has been suspended for 2 weeks.]
"I'll overlook the grammer" Oh please give me a break.Grammer, spelling, nuance of the english language,an intellect does not make.My pet galah can't spell and knows even less about grammer,however he does talk and that makes him smarter than you.

BOAZ_David, Your January 14 post was patronizing, especially the second half. Unless you know more about Bashir than his article suggests, I think it is quite presumptuous and arrogant of you to assume that he chooses to mix with small numbers of fellow Africans instead of mixing more widely. Or that he is being irrational and suffers from cultural shock. Not to labour the point too much but I feel there is a definite talking-down-to tone in this post and I'm sure I've noticed it in other posts but frankly I can't be bothered checking for further evidence. Your statement, "SEAN and BRONWYN... my eyes are glazing over here" was also patronizing. Having said that, I do enjoy your posts and usually think they contribute something worthwhile to the debate.

Shaun, thank you for your kind words. At the risk of BD and others suggesting some kind of love-in, I enjoy your posts too and hope to see many more of them. I agree, the Scandinavian countries are great models to aspire to. I'm a little more sceptical when it comes to Buddhism, but I have to admit it's probably one of the better religions.

Col - In relation to your statement, "Whilst everyone is entitled to their view, before they start dumping muck on other ethnic groups, they might look at their own history to avoid confirming their own hypocrisy", I think you should practice what you preach. You obviously have little understanding of the history of the European colonization of Africa. Try reading "Guns, Germs and Steel" as a good start. If you do you will see that, contrary to your assertion, Bashir has an excellent understanding of his country's history. You will also see in relation to your question, "Would those vestiges include modern pharmaceuticals or electricity or water pumps?" that Africa managed perfectly well without them for thousands of years.

"Africa managed perfectly well without them for thousands of years."

If you consider subsistence hunting and gathering, starvation, endless tribal warfare, slavery, and a complete ignorance of science, medicine and philosophy to be "managing well", then I guess you are right.

The situation in Africa today, even with all it's problems, is still far better than it was pre-colonisation.

LEO – as well as Indigenous Australians who dump on others too.

Bronwyn “Africa managed perfectly well without them for thousands of years.”

(To elaborate on Yobbo’s succinct and accurate post).

Tell that to the victims of Arab slavers (oh yes Europeans were not the only slave traders)
Tell that to those with Leprosy.
Tell that to those dying from all number of maladies which European developed pharmaceuticals, disinfectants and medical practices have prevented or curtailed.

And when Bashir Goth has removed the last vestiges of “European occupation” from the African landscape, please enlighten me as to who is going to replace the European women who provide the services of the fistula hospital to African women? (http://www.fistulafoundation.org/)

As a woman (based on your logon name), you should have some knowledge of exactly what fistula is, how it occurs and what you might think if you were so unfortunate as to suffer from it and be an outcast in your own society. You might also dwell on what a difference these European women doctors could make to your future.

So do not bother to play the “it was beautiful until the nasty Europeans spoiled it” card.
You know that is crap and If you do play that card, you are either lying or deluded.

If you think cannibalism, tribal warfare, malaria, female circumcision and many other blights both environmental and social which befell Africans were the result of “European colonisation” then there is no point in even acknowledging your existence.

If you want to go around in hair shirt and ashes feel free to do so.

If you want to parade faux-pity on Africa because you happen to possibly be European, do so.

But do not do it in my name and do not expect me to stand quietly by whilst you make an idiot of yourself and in the process malign the leading contribution which Europeans have played in the civilising and beneficially developing not only Europe but every other continent of the earth, Africa and Australia included.