Dear all

As usual, most got off the subject quite promptly.

Danny is a raving self-aggrandising and aspiring "model ethnic", whether or not he knows it. That is trying to be a goody-goody in the eyes of the majority - and it sells for the moment.

He must have read little about the history of multiculturalism, and understand even less.

As I have posted before, the concept is in part a guilty response to our racist past, but noble all the same. (By the mid 20th century it was no longer fashionable among the west.) Sadly it has been debased by politcial pork-barrelling - pandering to ethnic "comunity leaders" to win votes and financial support, and unwittingly doing stupid things like perfunctorily saying things like, we respect your culture, mantra-like, in the ubiquitous and numerous ethnic functions.

It is sad that the editor publishes something so ill-informed, and unbalanced. Just to incite a rally?

cheers

Chek

LittleAgreeableBuddy: I found you post interesting but am a little puzzled by some of your points. Perhaps, you could clarify what you mean by some of the following.

1. RE: "I don't want a person to swear in court upon the Qur'an & its standards rather than the standards of the Holy Bible."

It is acceptable for people not of any religious faith to take an oath of affirmation. Therefore, as the q'uran is equivalent to the bible for Muslims why would it not be acceptable for a muslim to swear on the bible?

2.BTW you talked alot about 'guests' my understanding is that immigrants are residents not guests.
Not quite sure what you mean about conformity. Adapting and adjusting is a two way street. I don't want carbon-copy anglo-aussies. Both the original residents and the new ones go through periods of change and adjustment. So far in Australia, it has worked. We don't have ghettos and while we remain vigilant we never will.

Not disturbing the neighbours in the middle of the night is just courteous and a common value among most humans. Not quite sure where you were heading here either? Have you noisy immigrant or born-here neighbours?

Chek

Agree that "I respect your culture" has just become a piece of rhetoric. It is more than just leaving your shoes at the door of a middle eastern friend it is accepting that their beliefs and values are just as valid as your own.

In Australia the majority of immigrants have done much to assimilate into our culture. Unfortunately, a disgruntled minority will never do so: they probably would never fit in anywhere, lacking courtesy and respect for others and swift to take offence.

Just what is fitting in anyway? If every male treated women the way Sam Newman or Shane Warne do, I think I'd be immigrating out of Australia - yet they are regarded as typical aussie men.

All cultures have much to learn and gain from each other. And it makes life a lot more interesting.

Long live diversity: of which this forum forms a part.

Islam is not in our lands to assimilate towards our ideas or culture. Please people wake up to reality. Mohammed was not a peaceful man, Islam at the root core is not a peaceful religion. Read the Koran and Hadiths. The wolf is not at your door anymore, it is inside your house. WAKE UP PLEASE! Australia will get its 9-11, please , I beg you, don't let it come to this. The ideology of Islam is warfare. Do whatever you can WITHIN THE LAW to stop it. I wish the best for the Australian people and all freedom loving lands, that do not want to live under islamic law.

Jeff

Little A Buddy,

People swear on/by what they believe in. You expect to show up in court and swear on the Bible as your absolute truth but what you expect, say a Jewish person to swear on the Bible?
Why does it offend you that a Muslim takes an oath on the Quran? Its our Holy book.

As for your other comment: “Islam seeks to convert the world”, nothing could be further from the truth. What is the number of missionaries in the Christian faith and what is their spend budget per year? There is thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) in Africa, Latin America and Asia with one responsibility: convert people.

PS: I ignored the time the Christian faith was riding British and French colonialism and conversion was by force.
Come on, think before you write.

MissisipiMud,

One of the issues of paranoia is that sufferers need a 'hostile other' to survive.

'they all want to kill me so I have to kill them first'.

People suffering these symptoms should seek medical attention.
This is not a joke, please research 'paranoia' and 'criminal paranoid behaviour'. Some terrorists and serial killers suffer the same symptoms.

Fellow Human,

Thank you for responding. I believe that Muslims that kill in the name of Allah for 72 virgins and rivers of wine, need some medical attention (and other kinds of attention.) And to be very frank with you Sir, the military will take care of Islamic terrorist with extreme measures, and all those that agree with them, or harbour them, and support them. No one is advocating "kill them all" as you texted Sir. But I promise you this, Muslim terrorists will be hunted down, and dealt with. We will destroy Islamic terrorists, all the time, every day.

Jeff

'Are we deceived by multiculturalism ?' - No.
Precisely 72?