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Are we deceived by multiculturalism? : Comments

By Danny Nalliah, published 6/1/2006

Danny Nalliah argues immigrants must be prepared to do more to assimilate into Australian society.

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Missi Mud

more on the vile Hamza and the silly PC Brits

This is even funnier in the saddest way:

"So prison officials have hired a male nurse named Harry to perform the task.

A prison source said: "He's known as 'Dirty Harry'.

This guy has got one of the worst jobs in the world. His main reason for being there is to clean Hamza's backside. Everyone's having a laugh about it. But Hamza can't be left unclean. It would be a health hazard."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14385572&method=full&siteid=50143&headline=hamza-gets--30-000-nurse---to-wipe-his-bum-name_page.html

The article about the Koran used as a defence for hate is an interesting case considering what the author of this article is up against re religious vilification
Posted by meredith, Saturday, 21 January 2006 11:19:22 AM
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I am intrigued:

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"Posters: I know plenty of folk who refuse to be assimilated into certain aspects of supposedly Australian culture. I intend to hold on to my culture. Thus Australia is a multi-cultural society while Rancitas is still around."

Rancitas, if that is the case, what are you doing here? Surely you, or your parents if you were born in Australia, came here because of the attraction of the place and its culture? Multiculturalism requires that each one of us adopts part of other cultures, in effect to NOT hold on to the existing culture.

Maybe you are more assimilated that you realise. You are obviously literate in English, and by even posting here you have entered into a very important part of Western liberal culture, that is the freedom of speech, thought and expression. You have not refused to use the host culture's language and instrumentalities. You are protected and nurtured by the host culture's laws and governmental institutions such as medicare, social security, clean running water and the like (shades of 'what have the Romans even done for us?').

I presume that if you are a citizen that you vote in elections, or if not you at least get the benefits of living in a democracy. You do not appear to have rejected those.

You do not seem to step on too many people toes by the practise of your culture, otherwise your ability to practise that culture would have been curtailed, so in effect your culture must have very little effect on those around you. So, feel free to 'hold on to your culture;, as it really must be fairly petty and meaningless in the overall scheme of society in Australia,
Posted by Hamlet, Saturday, 21 January 2006 12:20:13 PM
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The problem is that the Administration/Legal system that is used by the Australian Courts puts the weight of evidence on what is written on paper. The Koran is very powerful writing on paper. The Bible doesn’t appear to hold the same level of power or control. The Bible is seen as more tolerant and less strict and enforceable.

We need to stop being so tolerant, some things need to be put in writing and on paper and be made clear in relation to how much Muslims can reasonably expect a Western culture to change, otherwise we risk being taken over.

If our laws say that we cannot discriminate against Muslims for any reason as that is racism, then that gives Muslims the higher degree of protection and the power to rule. Since the Koran is said to direct and support the actions of the Muslims, even violence, then we have a problem.
Posted by Jolanda, Saturday, 21 January 2006 2:15:41 PM
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Geophysically speaking this continent is old Asia - there's none older than this. It's certainly not going to move, and after two hundred years and more, it seems clear to me that Anglo Christian Australians are not going to either. The answer therefore is for Australians to embrace Australia's destiny as a nation in Asia and the Pacific. Indonesia alone has 170,310,000 Muslims.
A few angy xenophobes getting all hot and sweaty about how persuasive their explanations are [about a largely imagined national identity] in this forum - doesn't mean sh*t in the long run.
Posted by Rainier, Saturday, 21 January 2006 3:19:13 PM
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if Muslims don't like the way Australia runs things and not to their liking or religious beliefs, then why do they still keep wanting to come here and live?
Why aren't they satisfied in their own lands enough to stay?If I go to their lands where the Muslim religion is paramount,they will make me obey their way of dressing,food, ban alcohol consumption,and the western men I know who have had to work there (middle East)have to wear long sleeve shirts and more,all to please and keep their laws.

If the Koran is accurate , then why do some Muslims say there is nothing in it to say to kill all non- Muslims when others say there is, like the UK Islamic preacher ,Abu Hamza ,says to kill all infidels comes straight from the Koran. He lives in multi - cultural UK and is stating they (infidels) non-Muslims all need their throats cut,and that the UK is only a toilet,so why stay and live in a toilet, like he has done ?

We are Aussies, and we have a right expect respect to our forefathers,laws ,our Consitution,our Judeo-Christian heritage and our cultural ways forever if we please.
So why not just go? Would you Muslims wear a kilt in Scotland? I say,"no,you wouldn't", and we have WA Police Force ,now with Police Commisioner O'Callahan's blessings, allowing Muslims in WA Police Force to wear their head gear and Sikhs their turbans and beards too.

It is not only bad taste,but dangerous for the Muslim women police as they could easily be choked or held down with the head and throat covers ,the Sikhs who have hair as long as a metre,could also have the same fate , so safety for them is not an issue and has been thrown out the window . "Come on Aussie,Come on".
Posted by dobbadan, Saturday, 21 January 2006 3:45:57 PM
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Dear Meredith

Thanks for those links. The first had me in stitches. The second made me feel quite sick. As a nurse I would not take on that job for a million dollars a week!

There was lengthy discussion in NSW this week re the special privileges granted to Muslim women who visit inmates in gaols. They do not have to comply with the same rules and regulations as other visitors, vis a vis: all jewellery (except for a tight fitting wedding ring) must be removed. This includes all nose studs, ear studs, necklaces, bracelets, watches etc. There are no exceptions to the rule. Also, anyone wearing a sweater with a hood must take off the entire sweater/jacket.

Muslim women on the other hand, do not have to remove: head scarves, hijabs or their birka (spelling?).

How's that for discrimination against all non Muslims?

Premier Mirrors Iemma, is "looking into it".

Cheers
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Saturday, 21 January 2006 4:53:51 PM
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