Jenab

Your coppycat post just goes to show that some of us are born to lead and others born merely to follow.

Goldbrick,it is a difficult one.There is now an opportunity for another political party because the Labor Party are useless an stand for nothing.I think we are enslaving our population both through Globalisation and Multi-national dominance and the left wing nutters that have control of our Public Service.It is a scissor movement of these two forces vieing for control and we the general public are the meat in the sandwich.

To start a new party takes much planning and credible leaders unlike the One Nation Party.People are really disatisfied with with all forms of our Govts because they are weak spin doctors of the politically correct.We are very cynical and tired of being manipulated by corrupt politicians.Just get the movie Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore and you will see why.Aparently it banned in many US States.

We are a confused society and don't know which way to turn.

Meredith

I scanned quickly through the website of Save Australia.

It doesn't seem to carry any particular idealogical line. Neither does it seem to be partisan. It seems to despise all politicians and parties equally. It is very much across issues. For example it is anti Iraq war yet holds similar views to Noel Pearson on the Aboriginals issues it addresses. I cannot find any comments on immigration although given it's rhetoric it would very likely reflect many of the views on this particular thread.

It is strongly against mutli-national corporations and anti free trade and anti the current Trade Union movement.

I found it both pro and anti republican.

It seems to attempt very reasonable arguments for the positions it espouses. It doesn't resort to shallow verbage.

The Port Arthur thing seems an oddity. It doesn't seem pro gun.

It is very much in support of property rights especially for farmers.

The new co-ordinator is Dr John Kingston who was elected as a One Nation member for Maryborough in The Pauline Hansons romp in that State election. To his credit he resigned from One Nation within a year. He represented Maryborough for one term only. Marybourough has had independant members ever since.

I prefer to take a longer term view of things so I haven't yet formed an opinion on the Save Australia group yet. Quite a few of the positions interest me and are inalignment with my own thoughts just as some of are not.

cool Keith,

yeh you seem to have looked a lil closer than me.. Arjay is right, theres an empty spot for a new political party with labor bin so stuffed atm

Jenab
You seem to be misunderstanding the concept of 'race'. Are u of the opinion that 'white' is a 'race' ? You would be fully aware that there are many different races which are white, including some northern Indian. Mixing if races (including Asian, Medditeranean,even Arab) is not the issue, it is the mixing in 'dangerous proportions'.

If any one minority were allowed to be more than 10% of our population, we could face signficant race based political instability.

I hope you will re-think your views on 'race mixing' because such views don't really have legs these days. I urge you to consider instead the 'Prevailing culture' model, which is easier to support.
The important thing for migrants should be cultural compatability etc. Not their particular race, though compatability will certainly limit the available choices.

GB and MEREDITH and KEITH... I think you are all 'tweaking' to the incredible POWER in a small number of votes ! We have all witnessed the power of Barnaby Joyce, and Steve Feilding. I rather like (thus far) the 'Save Australia' concept, though the name seems a bit reactionary and knee jerk. Still, they have a FANTASTIC point about being a loose knit 'BBQ' based movement. Its what I feel about OLO also. THIS is our 'bbq'.

OLO is a reference point of passionate thrashing out and refining of ideas. Criticism is invaluable to help us knock basic 'ok' ideas into powerful political weapons. With no 'party' or 'personality' for the LEFT Media to bash and insult, we can change this country !

I freaked when I found Tony Pitt has the same training and RAAF background as me, and worked on the same equipments :)

I think we are on the verge of PEOPLE POWER. The obvious need for, but lack of, a party to be more centrist, could be filled by like minded people in a movement like this. I found many of my own thoughts reflected on the Save website.

Manufacturing.
We have the ore, and the skills (for a few more years) do we have the entreprenuers ?

KEITH...
I just found Dr John Kingston is a FALUNGONG follower, and even went as far as proclaiming a 'falungong' day in Maryborough. I don't have a problem with him following that faith so much, if he can support the basic framework outlined by Tony Pitt in SAA. But I have some concerns possibly trying to turn the groundswell into a Falungong movement by proxy.

I read some of their views, and to be honest I found them 'whacky' at best. Just my opinion. Then, some people find my own Christian views worse than whacky :) Just ask Alchemist or Kenny.

Meredith, I think SAA has more to offer than a petition, but please contact me when ur ready and we can discuss it further.

Cheers