Is it just me? or do others get the sense that these forums are being taken over by the Australian branch of the Adolf Hitler Appreciation Society?

I guess there will always be people ready to hate anyone they deem different. Yesterday, they hated Jews. Today, it's Muslims. Not much has changed. Nazis will always be Nazis.

Ifran

It's just you... The bigotry lays in suppression by islamists and the pc of human opinion.

Yes Ifran , it is just poor you!

Have you tried reading this prophesy The River Tiber which has all but eventuated?

http://franksartor.org/orangenet/riversofblood.htm

Irfan,

True respect is something earned rather than demanded.

How can one not dislike the daily display of arrogant and defiant rudeness from members of the Islamic community? (And I am not ONLY referring to the gang war thugs)

Where are the so called "moderate" muslims in the midst of the Sydney 'tribal' war?

If your community leaders do not DO something (instead of denial and blame throwing) to the rest of us it means they are condoning the behaviour and even cheering and celebrating (it)in their living rooms and mosques.

Irfan, playing the Nazi card is nearly always a sign that the person stating an opinion has run out of good arguments.

Another problem with any comparison with Nazism is that the the Nazi policy against the Jews and the Gypsies was due to ethnicity, and not religious belief. A Jew who can converted to Christianity was still a Jew, so assimilation was impossible. How the Jews and Gypsies acted did not make any difference.

And the original targets of the Nazis were actually Germans - the 'worthless eaters' - people with psychiatric conditions, the 'developmentally delayed' and those with medical conditions that meant that they could not contribute to a certain vision of German society. These were the first ones put to death in Nazi Germany under a program of 'improving society'.

I do not see any of that here.

The problem in Australia is about behaviour, specifically anti-social behaviour, unless, of course, you are claiming that the host culture should simply accept bad behaviour from one or another group because of their ethnicity?

When it comes to accepting difference it cuts both ways. The host culture must be prepareed to accept that groups from outside, or indeed that may have grown inside it, are different. The 'hosted' cultures must also be prepared to accept that where their behaviour is likely to cause friction with the host culture then that behaviour must be moderated.

Irfan, I recall very few posts which have been supportive of racial purity agenda's. A number wanting the return of the "White Australia" policy but they seem to be from a small minority of posters. Did you see Arjay's recent post re extremist view points and the harm they are doing?

I'm seeing some christains fighting a turf war over who has the right to impose their religious dogma on the rest of the population.

I am seeing a lot of people very frustrated by what they percieve as a significant problem in Sydney and the apparent unwillingness of the government to deal with it. Rightly or wrongly these people appear to believe that gangs of youths of Lebanese muslim origins have been terrorising people in and around Sydney for some years and that those from their own ethnic/religious communities who should be standing up to them are letting tribal loyalties come before any sense of right or wrong. They are frustrated that this is happening and don't know what to do about it. Others report wider problems within some sections of the middle eastern/muslim communities regarding respect for our laws etc.

A combination of fear mongering by those pushing agenda's along with legitimate concerns about the behaviour of small sections of what appear to be people from middle eastern/muslim communities and the less than obvious attempts by leaders in those communities to resolve this are creating a cycle of escalation which is pushing some to extreme's.

The Nazi's didn't gain power because everybody in Germany started out bad, they got there because good people became convinced that they provided some hope.

While issues appear to be being brushed under the carpet, while the rioting thugs gain more condemnation in the media, from politicians and from muslim leaders than the gangs people will get more and more upset and the conspiracy crowd will gain greater footholds.

Open up front dealing with the issues is needed, not attempts to sidestep the issues otherwise we provide fuel to the fire some are trying to start.

R0bert